When one becomes a blogger certain arcane powers are bestowed on one by the hidden kabal of semi-reptilian, semi-bovine multi-dimensional beings who own and run the interweb thingy. In a horrid and blood soaked ritual that takes place at a secret location beneath the janitor’s closet in E wing of the Googleplex the new blogger acquires several super-hero-like abilities. Among these are the power to believe that the entire world is probably interested in reading your inane rantings, the power to smile smugly whilst saying “you really should read my blog you know,” and the power to ‘see’ what other, lesser, mortals are searching for on the internet. Of course I’m taking a grave risk by telling you about this but I’ve taken the precaution of balancing an empty beer bottle on my doorknob and the whole place is rigged to blow at the touch of a cunningly concealed toggle (what do you mean you’ve never seen Conspiracy Theory?). If you’re a blogger and you don’t remember this, it’s all down to the MKultra-style mind-fiddling tricks they deploy. There is a cure, but you need large quantities of obscure intoxicants and a couple of weeks of free time to put it into practice.
By performing certain ‘clicking’ actions in a certain order on certain ‘screens’ that are known only to the initiate the blessed blogger may gain access to a certain sacred ‘document’ known as ‘blog stats’ (I wouldn’t expect you to understand – it’s pretty advanced stuff). Buried deep within this hallowed document is a paragraph headed “These are terms people used to find your blog.” Therein may be found vast and disturbing knowledge of the average web surfer. In other words, “these are the things that some poor sap somewhere typed into Google and then ended up on your blog.” I intend to answer some of these queries in full.
In no particular order they are as follows (all are completely genuine search engine queries):
1. “Are polish people generally short?”
I’m tempted to say, “Yes they are all generally short of change,” but I suspect that’s not what the questioner had in mind. I have to say I’ve experienced a bit of a revelation in regard to this point recently. The ever-delectable A (who will probably kill me when she reads this) is certainly of diminutive stature. For many months I took great pleasure in pointing this out to her by the simple expedient of holding objects at the limit of my tiptoe reach and observing that she couldn’t reach them without recourse to a step ladder. My how I laughed, until she discovered that a carefully placed blow with the knee tended to collapse my superior position. From the floor I observed, in my defense, that she was indeed remarkably short and, moreover, that knee strikes of that kind were explicitly outlawed by the Geneva Convention. “Look around you” she said “you’re the freak. Everyone else around here is my height!” And do you know what, she was absolutely right. The next time I went out on the street I had a good look, and it’s true. Almost everyone, especially the women, barely came up to chest height. I started to feel a little like Gulliver and took more care about where I was treading.
The short answer: yes, most Poles are short-arses. Or possibly I’m a freaky giant from freaky-giant land.
2. “Polish facial characteristics”
We’ve been through this one before. No, there are no unique facial characteristics that enable you to identify a Pole (unless you count scowling and staring). Most Poles believe that they can spot another Pole on the streets of London or Chicago just by glancing at them. I say once and for all that this is total nonsense. It’s all down to body language and clothes. I’m glad that’s finally settled and expect to hear no more about it.
3. “How to meet Polish people”
Go to Poland. Or Camden Town. Or Baron’s Court. Or Chicago. You won’t be able to move without tripping over them. I suspect the subtext behind this query is actually ‘how to meet gorgeous Polish women.’ Since almost all Polish women are gorgeous, it’s less of a problem than it may first appear. On the other hand there’s a big difference between ‘being on the same street as’ and ‘meeting.’ Chatting up a Polish woman on the street or in a pub is next to impossible, unless she’s previously spent six months in Camden Town, Baron’s Court etc.
4. “Are polish people rude?”
Yes. Next.
Ok, sorry I should I go into this a bit more carefully. When I first came to Poland I was appalled at the way people constantly barged into me on the streets. It took me months the realize that this was actually my fault. Polish people pass on the opposite side to English people, as they drive on the opposite side. Amazing but true. It was me who was barging into them. Once I had figured this out I smiled benevolently at pedestrians and marveled at the ease with which I was able to walk down the street. I was happy right up until the point somebody barged in front of me in a queue or blithely allowed a door to swing shut in my face. The simple truth is that ‘street’ manners in Poland are generally appalling. If someone doesn’t know you, fancy you, or want something from you they’re likely to treat you with about as much respect as they might a rabid mongoose. It’s a jungle out there. Once I had realized and understood this I began to ‘go native.’ I’m a fairly big chap and entirely capable of winning in a pavement game of chicken. Nowadays, if the local barge merchants don’t get out of my way they tend to end up sprawled in the gutter. This is particularly amusing if they happen to be frail young lasses in high heels.
If I may stray into seriousness for a moment I think the root cause of this is that Poles are extremely judgmental. If they don’t know someone and that someone isn’t dressed from head to foot in pure mink/stepping out of a Mercedes SLK/emerging from a government office at that moment they tend to assume that they are scum. Poles are hypersensitive to social divisions (read: money). In truth the national flag should be pure green, because jealousy and envy are the driving forces behind most social interactions. Poles will bang on endlessly about how courteous and hospitable they are as a nation, but what this actually boils down to is three things:
1. giving up your seat on the bus to a female who is either a) pretty or b) likely to give you a severe ear-bashing if you don’t;
2. inviting people around to your house and plying them with food and drink in order to demonstrate that a) you have expensive stuff in your house and b) that you can afford to ply people with food and drink;
3. sucking up to people who may be able to do you a favor at some unforeseeable point in the future (elsewhere this is known as bribery).
By crikey I’m in a wicked mood today!
5. “Poland shop cigarettes”
Yes, there are shops and cigarettes in Poland – often in the same place. Most of these cigarettes have, in fact, been smuggled across the Ukranian border secreted in the undergarments of Polish grandmothers, but this doesn’t effect the taste significantly. I once knew a guy who worked in a massive American Tobacco plant somewhere in Poland. He received 20 percent of his wages in the form of cigarettes and took great delight in distributing them with gay abandon.
6. “Did poland ever have any colonies?”
Hmmm… tricky one. Basically, no. Poland never had colonies in the same sense that France or Italy or Germany or Britain (ahem, largest empire in history, ahem) did. Having said that, for much of the Middle Ages Poland was substantially bigger than it is now and it’s kings ruled over huge parts of what are now the Ukraine, Belarus, Germany, and Slovakia. Much good it did them. Of course today large parts of north and west London could be considered Polish colonies. I’m just waiting for the Polish Protectorate of Baron’s Court to be declared. It will do us all good and I intend to apply for citizenship immediately (see 3 above).
Flowing from this is the perennial question about Poland’s geographical ‘bad luck.’ As I indicated above, Poland was doing screamingly well for a long time in the Middle Ages and was known as one of the richest kingdoms in Europe. Somehow everything went pear-shaped following the Reformation and Poland has been invaded, partitioned, or occupied about once every three weeks since then. The standard response to this poor showing usually refers to the idea that Poland is surrounded by “powerful neighbors” and was thereby “doomed” to repeated invasion and occupation. This is a steaming pile of horse phooey as far as I can make out. Almost all countries are surrounded by “powerful neighbors.” France is “surrounded” by Germany, Britain, and Italy but has somehow managed to get through the centuries without dissolving into a vague concept for hundreds of years at a time. Britain is “surrounded” by France, Holland, Scandinavia, and Ireland. Germany is “surrounded” by France, Scandinavia, and Poland. How come the Germans aren’t complaining that they’ve been subjected to consistent and unsporting invasion?
7. “Poles drink?”
Yes, I believe I have occasionally seen them do so. It was all pretty lilly-livered and unprofessional stuff so I don’t like to cause embarrassment by going on about it.
8. “Pictures of polish people”
I suspect that whoever typed this in ended up directed to my slightly wicked picture of the traditional Polish drunk. I do hope it didn’t put them off at all :P.
9. “Crazy polish women”
I’m too scared to comment on this, although I should point out that it turned up 14 times (I just Googled it and discovered there’s a YouTube vid titled ‘Crazy Polish WomAn’ which may explain a lot, although she’s clearly not Polish – she would have been armed if she was).
10. “Types of homes people of Poland live in”
Bizzarely this one comes up all the time. I can only imagine that there’s a school system somewhere that requires its students to write “600 words on the average domicile of the Polish person” or some such nonsense. It was the repeated appearance of this query that inspired me to write Where do Polish People Live, but the whole subject turned out to be a lot less interesting than I had originally envisaged.
11. “Jews responsible for World War 2”
Errmm… I think, on balance, that a couple of minutes considered thought generally points fairly strongly towards the conclusion that this is unlikely. I don’t say this often but – WTF!?
Dear Author,
It is me, you historical conscience, again.
Re: the Middle Ages
Do you really think that the 15th and 16th centuries, when Poland was so big and – supposedly – powerful, were part of the Middle Ages?
Poland seems to be generally believed to have been constantly lagging behind the Western powers but, trust me, the Rennaisance was in full swing here too at that time.
Re: the rudness of Polish people or, rather, the question of savoir faire
Actually, I have met a considerable number of foreighners in my life and, many a time, I have been unable to come to terms with their absolute lack of table manners or manners in general. They do not let me go first through the door ( I am spoilt, I admit) or shut it in my face when I expect them to hold it for me. If I have to dine with some American or English people (sorry, my dear friends), I need to prepare myself for all sorts of suprises at the table. Holding a knife like a pencil is just one of their little sins …
Eating with Polish people seems to be less stressful but, certainly, there are appaling exceptions.
Re: are Polish women crazy?
Yes, we are. I do not dare leave home without my shining, though second hand, armour and I am always armed to the teeth in case a big foreigner fancies me sprawled in the gutter.
Jolanta
(definitely on the short side)
Kretyn.,na więcej szkoda czasu.
Tak jest
Hi, I do not agree with everything but the following is sadly true: “sucking up to people who may be able to do you a favor at some unforeseeable point in the future (elsewhere this is known as bribery” in my country, we avoid people we do not like but according to my experience in Poland and in Vienna where I live (my husband is Polish), they almost never will show you if they do not like you, when I asked my husband why do you tolerate so-and-so’s bad behaviour, his reply is always “Because I may need his help with something in future” I do not understand this mentality. Also, the money issue is something that really upsets me, lots of discussion about money who has and who does not have. I also think they are experts at using the situation to their advantage as far as money is concerned. Yes, Polish woman are as a rule, really attractive but I find they lack class. Beauty is not everything. I am lucky to have a very nice Polishy family whom I love dearly and they are all, including the woman, tall.
You are talking like this about your own husband??? Shame on you, I thought you meant ONLY Polish people are like this. By the way it’s not where you come from it’s who you are. In England people are worse when it comes to money but most wouldn’t tell you the truth, at least he told you the truth.
Polish woman here, raised in America and a longtime U.S. citizen. I am a VERY classy Polish woman, as was my gorgeous mother, and I find the “lack class” comment offensive. I have always heard from others, how classy on top of pretty we are in general. I don’t know whom you’ve been exposed to, but it’s unfortunate that it is your personal view point on the matter. I also found the op’s list of opinions on Poles, skewed and ignorant at times; i.e. #6 the very last part. Was he joking? Try living in between a few neighbors, whom happen to turn into Mr. Hyde ever so often, and decide to jump you simultaneously and then talk to me about being taken over, etc. Stupid comment; I don’t see Poland taking over Germany for instance. Right, because it was Nazi Germany, not so long ago, that decided to start WWII when it infiltrated our borders on a beautiful, peaceful school day, not Poland. I could go on, but I will agree, from many stories and experiences that my parents had gone through, both with dealing with Poles overseas as well as in the U.S., that they tend to be especially jealous and ill willed towards other Poles in particular. My parents weren’t that way, and neither am I, but many I’ve met were. Lastly, the “Because I may need his help with something in future” mentality, well that can be a negative, universal, human trait. I can tell you with certainty, that this a common thing here in the States. I grew up here and I don’t think that I will ever get used to the two-faced, selfish personality traits ingrained in this culture. Americans will kiss and buff your tuchus before they get what they want from you, and then they will turn around and pretend that you don’t exist.
FUCK YOU STUPID POLISH BITCH STOP STEALING ENGLAND YOU CUNT YOU WHORE
wow…are you on social benefits ‘Serena’? (not even an english name…)
one day im gonna find you and kill you for saying this you worrhless piece of shit
The Polish are just rude, cruel and a racist race, period. They come from a very very poor country and a very poor non-existent culture. Thank God they are not educated enough into medicine, “yet I might add” and remain uneducated for at least my kids generation. Unfortunately, I face them a lot our our local car wash and it scares me to know if\any CRB check has ever been carried out on them. When I look at them washing washing our car I always comment to my wife what a horrid type of people\race and one we hope to move away from them completely.
I know money is very important to them, coming from such a poor\grey\horrible country, but lets hope and fingers crossed, that one day they leave the shores or Great Britain\Canada\America and crawl back to there country, if you can call it that 🙂
My only two two thoughts towards the Polish people is this, if money is your God, try taking it with you into the after life where I am sure God will help you to burn in a hot fire with your love of your materialism wrapped around you.
Remember, to return the favor medical professionals will treat Polish like second class citizens in this world, so be warned “what goes around, comes around” as the Polish are a long way off in the educational\medical field and I for one know what I will be teaching my kids about the Pols when they qualify 🙂 So you have been warned.
you’re obviously a little bit lacking n the intelligence quoted area.
You’re obviously an individual with an appallingly low intelligence quoter, get a life and grow up.
Fuck you you english cunt. Fucking bitch. Shut the fuck up and fuck you again.
Fuck you stupid cunt.
The Polish are just rude, cruel and a racist race, period. They come from a very very poor country and a very poor non-existent culture. Thank God they are not educated enough into medicine, “yet I might add” and remain uneducated for at least my kids generation. Unfortunately, I face them a lot our our local car wash and it scares me to know if\any CRB check has ever been carried out on them. When I look at them washing washing our car I always comment to my wife what a horrid type of people\race and one we hope to move away from them completely.
I know money is very important to them, coming from such a poor\grey\horrible country, but lets hope and fingers crossed, that one day they leave the shores or Great Britain\Canada\America and crawl back to there country, if you can call it that 🙂
My only two two thoughts towards the Polish people is this, if money is your God, try taking it with you into the after life where I am sure God will help you to burn in a hot fire with your love of your materialism wrapped around you.
Remember, to return the favor medical professionals will treat Polish like second class citizens in this world, so be warned “what goes around, comes around” as the Polish are a long way off in the educational\medical field and I for one know what I will be teaching my kids about the Pols when they qualify 🙂 So you have been warned.
Hahaha hahahahahahahah hahahaha ! Very nice comment. I like it so much.
You should join UKIP, they’re all fucking mad too.
You are disgusting.
To polish observer.I don’t know much about you but the way you wrote I can say that u are racist ashole who is more arrogant than intelligent. How can u judge polish race after few strangers you met where you live. I assume that u never been in Poland. Do u think u are better… higher class because you are richer and come from wealthy country.I am not surprise if u are German nasis who escapef to UK or USA and judge people on I and second category citizens.
Good thing the majority of Poland is Catholic… Your ignorance is just a fraction of the exponential amount of stupidity you and your comment shows.
-A proud Polish American
P.s. Wypierdalaj xoxo
Beautiful! I couldn’t have put it any better myself. They should be taught some bloody manners before they are allowed to enter another country.
Give me your address you cunt and ill show you who you are you fucking twat.
I live in London with my family. My 10 year old son and i were in my car driving along stuck in traffic when we saw 2 builders sat opposite us, 100 per cent Polish. One of them gave my son the middle finger; i asked why and it was because my son pulled a funny face at them. He wasactually eating sweets.
That’s one of 50 similar Polish interactions we experience as Londoners. They’re also rather racist which has not endeared this race to our accepting and forward thinking city..
To Polish observer: I think you exaggerated about the poles.Not every pole is the same.Who are you to judge you fucking freak.Fuck yourself.Wherever you come from for sure there are freaks ,dumb, rude cruel people in your country as well.You must be one of Hitler’s ancestors because other nations have no grudges against poles but you do.By the way you mentioned about money…are you blind everyone in the world in needs money I bet you do if you don’t than you must be an alien.
I think you will find if you are capable of searching the internet, that it is a fact that the polish are very well educated and take their education extremely seriously, they are a polite friendly and very hard working people! You seem to be somewhat lacking in valid information concerning your statements, I wouldn’t imagine you are in possession of a particularly high IQ 😄 just an observation! Mine being 148 I do tend to pick up on these little intelligence discrepancies, you need to do some research on mannerisms, your are unacceptably terrible.
Everything was going so well until the last sentence. What a shame.
Lol!!! This made me burst out laughing. You aren’t serious, are you? Because if you are, then you are one of the most hateful, ignorant, morons that I’ve ever come across. You generalize about a whole group of people erroneously my dear. Also, your comments about how supposedly uneducated, etc. we are, are ridiculous. Come say that to my face you idiot. You can barely write in the English language and you dare attack a whole group of people. Only stupid, ignorant people do that, because there are both positive and negative things in all peoples of the world, each and every country. There are hateful morons in every country, and you must be one of your own country’s hateful, ignorant morons, whichever one that may be. Also, as far as uneducated and “far off in the educational/medical field” crap you spewed, get a clue. My father for one, was an incredibly intelligent and erudite medical doctor, that was fluent in eight languages, and my mother was also a Nurse Practitioner as well as multilingual. I won’t even mention myself, because the “apple doesn’t fall far from the tree” as they say. One of my close family friends, a Polish woman, is a tenured professor of advanced chemistry at a top university. I have met SO many highly educated, intelligent and elegant Poles in my 46 years, which makes me even prouder to have been born a Pole. You lack class, intelligence and critical thinking skills. It’s disgusting that a troll such as yourself even procreates, and more tragic that you are raising the same hateful, ignorant children. I pray they don’t turn out like you, but likely will live on to propagate this evil and ignorant mentality which you possess. Good riddance!
“savoir-faire” is for handworking, i think you meant “savoir-vivre”.
Seriously? We’re the ones with no table manners? We don’t eat hamburgers everyday and Mc Donald’s isn’t our Church… So America fuck you…
Brawo Jolanta 😀
You dumbass, a Brit wrote this not an American. That’s all.
Now you may get back to being a dumbass.
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All i have to say is Polish people are not rude
I am 29,white male British. . I earn an average salary, I work Monday to Friday and often liase at work with international surbordonates with some being polish. Recently I have just returned from Polands capital and can openly admit I was very shocked. Shocked at how well the people look after themselves, I struggled to find an obese Polish female, the vast majority are very attractive and seemed very healthy. I could only admire this and respect the Polish culture in comparison UK people, as you only have to visit some of the great cities of the UK and obesity is rife amongst the uk citizens.I now believe the uk government needs to step up and educate the youth about dietary requirements and how to best look after your body. Because when you actually think about it?,some of our parents growing up would end up feeding us frozen pizzas,chips,beans ect you catch my drift, instead of highlighting the benefits of eating healthy,and how rewarding it can be to look after ones self, instead of over indulging in alcohol and junk food, resulting in disgusting poor health conditions such as obesity,some skin problems,mental health problems and so on. So moral of the story?
Don’t over indulge in crap and look after what your parents gave you, you have one life make it the healthy one.
Daz needs to get laid.
Thank u Dan Z Man nicely put…
Jolanta: Remarkable restraint considering my rudeness. I was having a bad day; sometimes being a stranger in a strange land just gets you down.
I researched my historical comments thoroughly by glancing at a couple of amateur websites and dimly recalling something I read in a book once. I thought Poland was rich in the Middle Ages too…
I think my point about manners was that although the niceties are in place there doesn’t seem to be anything genuine behind them. People hold doors open for ladies, but don’t actually have any respect for them. It all seems to be more show than substance. Table manners are a good example, they don’t actually matter in any sense, but it doesn’t stop people gasping with horror when someone uses the wrong spoon. It’s seen as a sign of poor upbringing (i.e. poor social standing) more than anything else. I would prefer people not to push into queues or stampede for a newly opened checkout as a much greater priority than holding their knife in the correct way.
Evidence of my status as a freaky giant is mounting.
this is the most greatest thing ever in a million years
Hi Englishman….I a am polish living in USA and I so happy for this article of Polish people I love iit especial one about the money ..so right on…..my family is so envy and pissed off that I am living in USA they are trying to do everything to brign me back to Poland so I can be unhappy like them…and boy they are so gereedy beyond imagination ..money is the only one thign to drive them …..I am so glad that some else said that …thank you !
Don’t backtrack – you spoke the truth and many people (especially expats) can read your words and now nod ‘My god, it’s not just me!’.
The point about men being gentlemen towards women (holding the door, buying a flower, etc.) is a great one. Polish men make many meaningless gestures here to FEEL and APPEAR like gentlemen (and they really believe they are), when in fact, if you actually listen to them, their brains operate in the gender role territory of two centuries ago. To the vast majority of men, Women are considered ‘less than’ here and not to be taken seriously – it’s that simple. They do not think of them as equal in almost any way. It’s partly cultural, and partly nicely engrained propaganda by the church.
I work in business, and even for me the lengths that people go to here to appear ‘cultured’ and socially ‘respectable’ is laughable. The show of titles, business stamps, formality, wearing highly visible name brand clothing (look, I’m important!), and living in their highly secured ‘exclusive’ prison-like buildings, shopping only at the upscale markets, and trotting around in BMW’s are all trademarks of the nouveau rich in Poland. Yes, they DO believe they are now clearly ‘above’ those little people living in the blocks and attending the same schools that they themselves did 10/15 years ago.
Money is everything for polish peasants, but not for polish landed gentry.
Money is everything for English people they have no other values .
I am glad there is less and less of them .
That’s why Poles chased the money in England in their millions.
Dear Author,
1. Table manners.
Of course, in the long run it matters more if one is kind-hearted and pleasant to be with than the mere fact that one is proficient in using all sorts of cutlery, choosing the right glasses for the right wine etc. However, there are a number of decent people who seem to be capable of both.
By the way, I hope you are not against good upringing, are you?
2.Street manners.
Each time I come back from abroad I keep smiling at people on the street for a while but, after a day or so, I stop because it dawns on me that the passers-by find me strange, to put it mildly. Perhaps in Poland being polite in the street means looking ahead (hence the collisions on the pavement), not meeting anybody’s eye and keeping a neutral (but not hostile) expression on one’s face?
On the other hand, that ever-present smile on American faces may be just a facade, don’t you think?
I have noticed that a lot of Polish people fall over themselves to help a foreigner in distress. It suprises the foreigner so much sometimes that he or she even offers money in return!
I myself jump to foreigners’ rescue on the street, on the tram or on the train and I am often told that such behaviour would be very unusual in their own country. I have been offered money by Dutch, American, Swedish and English people and – to their amazement – I have never accepted it.
So, is something wrong with the foreign attitude or do I look that poor?
3. Queue manners.
If you had joined a five-mile queue for the toilet paper / meat / tea etc. just once some twenty-five years ago, you would know now that either you fight for it or you do not get it. Bearing this in mind, you might be more inclined to make allowances for the ways of the people who are over forty. There is no excuse for the young generation, though (perhaps it is genetic?).
4. Historical references.
I do recommend the books by Norman Davies for a start.
5. I do agree with your comment on question no.11.
Regards
Jolanta
Oh Jolanta, you are such a typical Pole. Your ego and false pride won’t allow you to admit what you know is true – that your nation is full of rude people most of whom have a very basic peasant mentality. I could counter each of your points in detail (having lived in your ‘cultural mecca full of politeness’ for ten years) but I won’t. And YOU talk about a ‘a good upbringing’? Ha!
As for distintive Polish facial characteristics – I too used to think that there are none. And then somebody suggest that I look at cheekbones.
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Dear reader,
1. No, I’m not against decent upbringing, but I am against judging people who haven’t had one (whatever that means). My point was that there seems to be an awful lot of social judgment in this country. The distinction between the educated urban elite and the (supposedly) uneducated rural ‘peasantry’ seems particularly marked and unfair. I’m afraid I can’t be dissuaded from the view that being seen to be ‘well brought up’ and economically comfortable is of overwhelming importance here. I know one can claim that good manners and generosity are marks of good character that transcend economic barriers, but I’ve seen too many examples of ‘simple’ people being scorned for their simplicity to honestly believe that this holds true.
2. I’ve thought about this one hard in the past couple of days. I’m afraid I’m still convinced that the average person looks at the clothes and the demeanor first and then decides how polite they are going to be. In almost any anonymous social meeting the Polish party always seems to be judging how rich and important the person is before deciding how to react.
3. The subject of queue manners occupies many hours of conversation among Brit ex-pats in Poland, believe me. It’s our number one horror. The weird thing is that British queue manners and Polish queue manners developed under almost identical conditions. Deep in the days of WWII rationing in Britain just thinking about jumping a queue was sufficient to get you sent to the gallows. There is some absence of common feeling in Poland that promotes an ‘every man for himself’ mentality. By the way, 20-east has also written about this.
17. I’ve added a new post that goes some way to explaining my rather vociferous mauling of Polish manners in this one.
Your first point is a profound and insightful truth about Poles and Poland. In all of my travels and periods of living and working abroad in various countries have been I never in a country with such a marked mental obsession about class lines (translation = $). Considering the common roots people have here from the Communist times – ie the same schools, the same housing, same economy, etc. the clear judgement/superiority that now grotesquely flows from the ‘new money’ people is both absurd and sad. Ironically, coming from a wealthy country we don’t have these ‘lines’ and there is no marked personal judgement of the different socio-economic classes – though i get the impression that people here think this is also how it is in the ‘west’ (that people with money act superior). It’s not, not even close.
Those communist times are exactly the reason for the obsession with money. You’d be obsessed too if told for 45 years that nothing was truly yours and that you could not own anything because that is not the communist way. Try living that way and then you can judge. I too live in a wealthy country and the “lines” are definitely there. People are just not as open about it but (working with the public) I come across this sort of judgement on a daily basis. It is hidden behind a sophisticated facade of condescension.
Island,
Where to start?!?! (I’ll be brief)
1/ Agree with Jola, you can distinguish Poles from others with about an 80% accuracy. It takes quite some time to be able to do it, but it is possible.
2/ LOL! I had exactly the same street walking problem as you describe when I first arrived. I now have that problem when I visit the UK.
3/ We’ve never met but I think you must be over 1.8m tall?
4/ Rudeness. I think they can be considerably ruder in public situations where they clearly have no idea who you are. In any other, more private situation, I would say they are more polite. (than Brits) To Jola’s point, the entire world is more “genuine” than your average American, although there are exceptions.
5/ Colonies. The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth must be the closest. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_lithuanian_commonwealth
Generally on the issue of search terms that end up at one’s blog, I have the same fascination and same weird results. The strangest I ever had was something like “exploded view of a deconstructed chair”. Go figure!
Dear Author,
When I suggested that you make certain allowances I did not mean that you should accept jumping the queue but that you be a little bit more tolerant towards those pushing mercilessly the fellow “queuers” and standing so close to one another that you are bound to guess the contents of their stomachs. Personally, I hate it as much as you do (as I am fairly small in stature and easy to get overlooked in a queue) but I try to understand the origins of such behaviour.
In the past, if I recall it correctly, jumping the queue would result in the “jumper’s” immediate death. In order to prevent such unfortunate incidents people used to set up “queue committees” and to make a list of all those standing in a line; they would regularly check who was present and if you were unlucky, they would strike you of the list ( I am talking about those several-day-or-week-long queues for building materials, furniture, hosehold appliances etc.). By the way, the period of rationing in the UK seems to have been a little shorter than the communist era here …
My parents and my friends’ parents are, in most cases, the so-called first generation intelligentsia. Most of them are university graduates; they have never been rich and, under communism, they were state employees, teachers, doctors, engineers. They could not give us much in the material sense but they gave us something which I can only term as “decent upbringing”. As a result, I do not judge people by their financial status but by the way they think and behave.
My grandfather, a small holder so small that he had to become a travelling stove maker to provide for his family, endowed his six children with his gentle manners and a good upringing too.
And please, show mercy and do not imply that people abroad do not judge their countrymen by their clothes, cars, houses and other status symbols!
Jolanta
Dear EVERYSINGLE ONE OF YOU READERS AND AUTHOR,
i am an american but born into a very polish family.
i can agree and disagree with many of your “11 questions”
but i do not think you have the right to blog about a country you have visited once or twice and call the polish people rude, grreedy and basically describe them in all the negative ways. you should focus on the culture more and be more observant of the people and the way they interact, ALL cultures are different with very different temperaments. if your going to sit on the internet and blog about cultures and people from different parts of the world please take a couple anthropology classes so you don’t offend your readers. I’m sure you have a fatass and like to stuff your face every night with pierogi. you have offended me and i hope you learn more in your life because your just a woman who has no knowledge of culture.
The polish male and female I live with are the ones that stuff their faces and have flat wide asses simply because thay sit on it constantly complaining about this or that person until they feel like being pleasant in order to get something..if were lucky. Otherwise its the scowel! And may I add ignorant!
Grammar lesson for the authors of your search engine queries:
The word “polish” means blask, połysk, lakier, pasta, płyn etc., something with with you shine things like shoes, furniture, etc.
The word “Polish” is the adjective referring to Poland.
I’m SICK of seeing the two words confused with each other.
It may be that MS Word’s Spellcheck, which changes ‘Polish’ to ‘polish’ by default, is to blame. People of all nationalities think that Bill Gates Knows Better, and, deferring to his greater wisdom, switches to lower case.
It may be that Poles themselves, used to a language which has Proper Nouns but not proper adjectives, simply apply the same rule in English.
It may be PEOPLE DISSING MY COUNTRY (in your questions 1, 4, 8 and 9).
Dear Baduin and Scatts,
You seem to have got me (?) wrong. The terms “Slavic / Slavonic” refer to a linguistic category, not a racial one; thus, there cannot be any distinctively Polish / Russian / Czech facial features, if we are to be serious about it, of course.
The notion of “the Slavic race” (certainly inferior -Untermensch) was popularised some seventy years ago by … guess whom.
Jolanta
All: Yes, I think Scatts mis-attributed the ‘Polish facial characteristics’ comment to you Jolanta.
This whole issue has become something of a bugbear of mine since the argument previously broke out in the comments to What is Poland Anyway? This is what I think: yes, it is possible to identify Poles on the streets of London or Brits on the streets of Krakow without hearing them speak, but this is emphatically not because of any facial characteristics. Any Pole who’s lived in the UK and any Brit who’s lived in Poland will recognize the phenomenon. You see someone or, more usually a group of people, walking down the street and you are immediately and absolutely sure they are countrymen of yours.
I contend that there are several things that allow you to form this opinion, usually correctly, but that facial characteristics isn’t one of them. Body language, style of clothes, hairstyle, gestures, facial expressions yes, but not physical facial characteristics. Carefully look at the faces of Polish people on the street next time you go out then look me in the eye and tell me honestly that there are some common and universal features. It just isn’t the case. Yes, of course we all know Polish girls with slightly close-set or broad-set eyes and killer cheekbones (or whatever your favorite is), but think about it, we also know Polish girls who have neither of these things (I know, I know, but I’ve never had the inclination to closely study Polish male physiognomy).
As Jola quite correctly points out the notion of purely Polish racial characteristics is both absurd and faintly nauseating. It could only really be entertained in a country where 99.9 percent of the population is white and culturally homogeneous. I’ve certainly been in situations where I was immediately sure that a person with African or Asian racial characteristics was British, or American, or French, or whatever. In other words, a Brit who happens to be black is as immediately obvious to me as a Brit with ginger hair and bad teeth in the same way that one can spot an Algerian-Frenchman or a Turkish-German. It’s not in the face.
As I mentioned in the previous discussion a Japanese-American called Dyske Suematsu conducted a very interesting experiment that goes right to the heart of this issue. He wondered if it was really true that Japanese, Chinese, or Korean people could actually identify their fellow countrymen simply from a photograph of the face. The answer: no, not any better than an Eskimo guessing on pure chance. I’d love to prove that this is also the case with Poles, Czechs, and Russians, but have yet to summon the time or enthusiasm to carry out a similar operation.
By the way, I do not mean to imply that anyone who has commented on this is in any way racist or bigoted, but I do think there are some dangerous concepts lurking behind this whole idea that need to be brought out into the open and heavily stomped on.
Michael: I’ve often thought that it must be highly annoying to Poles that they can be mistaken for poles or that being Polish might imply that you can bring a shine to leather footwear. I am aware of the grammatical distinction and apologize if I’ve allowed it to slip through in the past.
Are you implying that I’ve dissed your country? Well, yes I have and I intend to continue doing so as long as I feel like it. I have of course also heaped praise, and very deliberately.
scatts: (I can’t help but find your nick vaguely, well, scatological… please supply some alternative explanation that I can get behind)
2) It’s so true. People back in Blighty never believe me and often conduct complex experiments to prove me wrong. Of course the results are slightly skewed by the fact that they take place on Kentish Town High Street where you’re as likely to be walking past a Somalian fresh off the boat, or a Pole, or a Lithuanian, or an slightly lost Russian billionaire, as a you are a born-and-bred Englishman.
3) I’m a little over 1.8 m (6 foot 1 in old money) which is by no means exceptionally tall in the UK. I lived in Warzsawa for a couple of years and I suspect that down here in the south people are generally a bit shorter. I’m sure it’s the result of to too much walking up and down mountains, it wears their legs down.
4) Rudeness. Yes, there really is something in it. There is a moment of judgment that precedes the decision to be polite or not. As a typical scruffy Englishmen I think I often fail to make the cut.
Search terms are indeed fascinating. I’m just worried by the fact that the chap who typed in “Jews responsible for World War II” ended up with me. And by saying that I have of course just doubled the chances that it will happen again. Self-censorship enters a new era–you dare not mention the phrases that you don’t want to be associated with…
scatts: going for the record on self-commenting, but it just occurred to me to mention DarthSida who blogs in English about living in the UK. I will get around to blogrolling him just as soon as I can figure out what the hell he’s going on about.
Hello to this blog, everyone, everyway 🙂 Hope you’ll pardon me a personal intrusion into your interesting topic:
=> island1
I was living in the UK for a very, very short of time, albeit long enough to make me feel like launching a London-about blog. Back in Poland, I’d want to comment on [inter alia] miscellanies of / in British media / life – either to keep pace with the UK should I return there – or to keep pace with my English (leid).
J
Keep on putting your thoughts down… keeps me laughing and checking your big words…
sorry will miss Krkw for New Years… maybe another time when warmer.
blessings,
L
I’ll sort of skip the whole “race” thing except to say I appear to have mixed up Jola & Baduin. Also to say I do honestly think there are such things as Polish faces, same as there are English ones. Lastly, for something I’m skipping, doesn’t “99.9 percent of the population is white and culturally homogeneous.” apply to Poland more than……any other country you can think of? 🙂
As for my nick. My surname is Scattergood (as per the “who me” section of the blog). When everyone eventually grew out of calling me “scatterbrain” at school they settled on “scatts”. I still have many friends I have known for well over 30 years and so this nick has sort of stuck. Although it does have certain shitty connotations, it has been my nick since before computers were available to the general public so I saw no need to re-invent myself especially for virtual purposes.
darthsida: Hi to you too. Your intrusion is quite welcome.
Thanks for the clarification. In skipping through your voluminous blog(s) I admit I missed the point where you ceased to be a foreigner and came back home.
Lon: Actually the weather is unseasonably warm (again), but it is terrifyingly gray, damp, and gloomy. I’ll keep putting in the big words as quickly as I can pick them at random out of my Big Boy’s Book of Hard Words 🙂
scatterbrain: aha… I have that feeling you get when somebody tells you something you’ve previously figured out and then forgotten. I do remember looking at your Who Me and this occurring to me before. I have to say your About page has significantly more information and significantly less cod Latin than mine. You can make up your own mind as to whether this is a good thing.
But WHY do you think there are such things as Polish faces, or for that matter English faces? It just isn’t true! You CAN identify people of your own nationality, or of a nationality that you know well, but it’s not the face that allows you to do this. Why do I say this? 1. Because studies have shown it just isn’t true (Dyske Suematsu’s experiment is just one easily accessible example). 2 Because non-white British people (or Americans) still look like Brits or Americans to me.
Rant over.
1. faces: the thing that gives Polish people out is deifinetely hair cut. usually very bad. this, however does not usually apply to women.
2. rudeness: there is something in what Island1 says about lack of genuine respect behind the gestures. i’m impressed with how observant you are. i think i’d generally agree… but not with one point. manners and money are not that connected. at least not in Poland.
in uk it’s different, and i think it comes from the general attitude of the British “working class” towards education of any kind. in poland poor and uneducated people still have a huge respect for the educated and education. that’s one of the reasons it’s usually the university professors who comment on things on tv, not “an average Pole”.
poor people in Poland also know the manners and pass them to their children, like other things they want to teach them
what i meant is that manners are not a reflection of your bank balance, but of your education/mentality
very interesting.
i’m adding in RSS Reader
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You are right about the Middle Ages. Poland was indeed quite powerful during the Middle Ages (the monarch was the third wealthiest in Europe, just check out what remains of his former tapestry collection at Wawel) and Renaissance, and the “Rebirth” actually made its way from Italy to Poland before it did to other parts of Europe).
Also, yes, Poland did have colonies, in mainland Europe. And if you count Tobago, which was colonized by the Courlandians which were then a fief of Poland, you can count a remote colony as well. But it quickly fell to the Dutch and Poland was too embroiled in its own internal affairs to give a hoot.
And one more thing! How tall are you? You must suffer from giganticism, because the average Polish height is 176cm, hardly what one would call short.
Bob: Courlandians eh? Sounds interesting I’ll have to find out more.
176 cm may be the average but believe me there are and awful lot of short people down here in Krakow. Maybe they’re all 2 meters tall in Gdansk to bump up the average.
Why are u pissin off polacks. What are you a british Pri**?
Stop sayin bad things, and say somethin about urself that u guys are ugly as f***, ur teeth are as big as rabbits and u guys have no manners at all.
island1: Being an American, I wanted to find out my “genealogical roots”, and I actually went as far as having a DNA test done. I was surprised when the results came back “Polish”, especially since I have traced all my ancestors back to the England (to the 1500’s). In an attempt to find out more about Polish people, I ended up reading your blog. I think you are absolutely hilarious and a fantastic writer. You should come here to California and become a comedy writer!
Genene: Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. Now tell me you’re the head of a major studio and want to offer me a job.
Good luck with the Polish roots thing. Plenty of interaction between England and Poland even before 1500; Hanseatic League traders and all that.
If you’re interested in Poland do click over to Polandian; a collaborative blog where most of my stuff appears these days.
But you Brits (or English is maybe more accurate) are obsessed with queueing. You have to admit that it is more than a little silly to queue for a bus, when there almost always is a place for everyone. But I also agree, that the Poles could learn a little from the English, but there’s no need to go to either extreme.
Hmm about height.
Let’s maybe u r taller than poles ;p
Average height of polish men is 174 cm 😉
And i am 157cm.
Small?
most polish i met abroad are rude (not in poland). they talk about other nationalities like they are superior. talk about asians not speaking good english when they themselves were poor in english. they look down on you – they look at your clothes, your car, your everything. even casual parties they dress like they’re going to an Evening Ball. They are very much concerned about money. money money money.
@i hate polish
I could say the same about Asians sometimes. All they do is look at status and look at what you drive. Cookie-cutter asians with their nose pointed in the air or at accounting textbooks.
See what I did there? It is very easy to demonize another race/culture.
Also, we do not dress to show off, we dress up to show we have respect for ourselves enough to not dress like trash, however, That does not mean we do not dress casually. =]
Yes, at times we are rude/crude, and even racist, and we are very outspoken, however, I am sure that can be applied to all races given a certain context.
I am Polish, my Fiance is Chinese. Kind of blows your initial comment out of the water doesn’t it?
I wandered by this comment and felt the need to have my own say.
Well maybe new rich are concerned about money, but not old money-polish landed nobility.
It’s sad that you’ve met only that kind of Poles. My host family and all of their friends were the most friendly and kind people I’ve ever had the chance to spend some time with.
Wrong about the height bud,
Most of the people in my POLISH family are above 6ft tall, women ranging from 5’8″ to 5’10”
I myself am 77 in. tall and damn proud to be
I am a first timer to Poland currently sitting in a hostel thinking how did I end up reading this fascinating blog when I’m in a foreign country (another story for another day).
I have to say that I’m of the friendly type and smile at someone if they look at me in the eye (walking down street, in a bar, anywhere pretty much) and I get scowled at quite regularly.. Why is this?
Is it because I 185 (with sun streaked hair and a definite surfer image I’ve been told)?? Are people here heightists or is smiling at a stranger not acceptable here.
I’m of the opinion that a lot of people here in Wroclaw don’t really meet many other people than drunken british males looking for good looking polish women to ravage who in turn look out for british males and avoid them at all costs… again just an opinion but could it be true?
Oh and by the way.. Drinking Guide… what a brilliant blog!
1. I am proud to boost the average to 193 cm (six foot four, as we say in Chicago). I have no idea whether the polish food my babcia served, the fumes of Chicagoan traffic, or some ingredient in my school lunch did it, but I’ve outgrown my entire extended family. In my humble opinion, Poles are no shorter than most other races once corrected for nutrition, Masai and Pigmies aside.
2. The facial characteristics might be subtly there, but I believe much of it is culturally learned. Perhaps we Poles can sense others with our minds?
3. On the subject of courtesy, I believe we generally are cautious, but not rude. Last I checked, our tourists do not have the unfortunate habit of stealing signs from our neighbours.
http://www.utterpants.co.uk/news/world/rudesigns.html
4. On the subject of alcohol: simply check the Polish ranking in beer consumption per capita – it is difficult to find an adult (or teenager) in Poland that has not imbibed two drinks in the past twenty four hours.
5. Historically, all of Eastern Europe could have been speaking Polish by now if not for two unfortunate tendencies: poor allegiances and worse bureaucracy.
Our neighbours (with Lithuania as a major exception proving the rule) generally either allied against us and then divided up the resulting spoils of crushing us (multiple times), or our allies were content to sacrifice us in the hope of appeasing their enemies (see: Roosevelt, Churchill, although the Sudetenland felt this, too).
Our politicians may have been even more lamentable; after the strong monarchy Poland initially possessed faltered and a legislative government took over, we Poles have been (pardon the pun) shafted. If it wasn’t the horridly mistaken liberum veto policy of the sejm (one vote against negates the entire vote, ad infinitum), it was the puppeteering of the Soviet government. After the Kaczyński twins left office, the most common complaint I hear about Polish politics is that it isn’t even entertaining anymore.
Polish women,
Great in bed but deadly in all matters of the heart. They are cold as hell and razor sharp. No wonder Polish men have a reputation for heavy drinking…..I have had a few encounters and been close to hitting the hard stuff my self. Polish women have no idea what they want (even less so than other women) but they are damn sure that all the problems in the world are your fault and they are going to get even with you for it…well in advance.
I am seeing a Polish girl now (it took me a year to recover from the last one) and frankly………she is ………hell on toast! Great looking though. Lets see. What the hell am I doing. I just never learn.
Dear idiots,
You have no clue what your saying! First of all any country can be rude and just because poles don’t open the door for your spoiled ass doesn’t mean there rude! Gosh, your being rude right here and very selfish expecting everyone to move for your big BRITISH ass.You think every country has to bow down and kiss your feet when you strut down the street. I’ve been to Britain and theres all sorts of ignorant and selfish people. BTW I’m not polish, I just think you’re stupid.
Polish woman are beautiful hot loving and caring, however if the other side is mean to her not respectful and only thinks about one think well guess what, they are going to turn cold. I think Every one is like that. U r totally right about everything Alex.
This is the strangest website….. It appears to be based on nothing factual or intelligent at all. What a waste of time!
I think this website should be a study in the pitfalls of stereotyping.
You guys are wrong on so many points I think it’s not even worth writing about?
I guess I’ll address a few….. Poland was dominant in Europe in the 15th and 16th centuries.
Poland is the 19th tallest country in the world. (according the the chart I read). From my personal observation the people in the north seem to be a bit taller than the ones in the south.
It’s a BLOG you dumbass. It’s not an academic journal – it’s based on his experience, which is that Poles behave or seem to be ‘this way or that way’ it’s not stereotyping.
As an expat living in a foreign country (Japan) I completely understand both the need to vent on apparent differences and the feeling of being judged by everyone around you.
I’m under the impression that all expats, everywhere, feel that the people in the other nation are judgmental because manners are essentially culture- culture that you did not grow up with, culture that you may never completely fit into. Truth is, we are being judged. This happens everywhere.
That being said, I was disappointed that the author would merrily engage in some serious stereotyping despite having suffered under so much stereotyping himself.
Commentors, too- I’m rather sick of being judged because I’m American. Just like the Polish are sick of being judged for being Polish; same for the British. Come on, people.
Having spent some time in a smaller city in Poland… the distinctive aspect of the Poles is that the young women dress to kill (tight jeans, high books, short skirts), the young men dress like hooligans, and the old people all look like tired alcoholics.
When I enter a train carriage everyone greets me.
People drink astounding amounts.
The young women are beautiful, eager, smart, and if you filter out the obvious semi-pros, nice. I’ve never been so flattered in my life as with my Polish girlfriends (4 or 5 in a cloud right now).
I love the Poles, to be honest: traumatized, brilliant, beautiful, tough, fucked up, hard working, brutal.
Uhm, that should be “high boots” not “high books”… 🙂
Hi all, I am but another random person searching the net and stumbling onto this website. I never usually blog, 1st time infact, but this one got me going.
Well actually i am into mining and was looking for “Polish” mines after chatting with a mate on the subject, thought what the hell and ended up reading this and loving it.
I, as a brit, lived in Chile for a while with a completely foreign culture and yes you do feel strange with the perception of manners, but generally people are being polite in their own defined way, its just that we dont fully understand their mannerisms, thus we may percieve them as rude.
Ok i do drink loads of beer and that does fit with the brit abroad type but i never cause or get involved in any trouble, infact i actively avoid it. I do hold open the door for the person behind me and end up standing there for ages while everyone walks through, but hey, id rather wait a few seconds than let it close in your face.
I get really pissed off when i hear all my fellow so called countrymen slagging off foreigners, saying stuff like, they are taking all our jobs. Here we go…. 1. How many brits think they are too good to do that job, fucking loads. 2. especially when their education isnt exactly up to scratch, and the “foreigner” has a proper education. 3 why work when you can sign on?.
I was eating out in the summer and the place was being staffed by Polish people. These guys get up at 5am or earlier to go out on the boats and catch the fish, crabs, lobsters etc. They cook, prep and serve all day they clear up after us. Someone complained to the manager that the waitress had been rude, when infact she had been courteous and polite, the rudeness was coming from her. It was a blatent attempt to get the poor girl in trouble. Anyhow we informed the manager after she had left and all was well.
Ill just say that all the experiences i have had with Polish people here and abroad, albeit not many have been perfectly polite.
Respect to you guys for leaving your country and busting your hump to better yourselves. Its an admirable quality that many a chav could do with learning.
Final point, I may be a bit of a traditionalist for modern britain, but whats with some of our girls these days? You wonder why so many British blokes like foreign women.Ok maybe they should quit with the drunken attempts to pull.
But, Different Country, culture, language, looks and expectations of life and then see how much more interesting it can be getting to know a foreign girl. Its amazing!!!
Szczęśliwe Boże Narodzenie, I hope that says Happy Christmas.
No offense to you mr.island1, but Polish are not rude. They are quite the kind and caring, well-mannered, and respectful people. As for the part about them being short…that’s not really true. Women are 5′ 5” or 5′ 6” on average and men around six feet. Believe me I know A Lot of Polish people and they are Kind and Tall.
first off…i wouldnt consider polish people short in general..i’m 6’2″ (188 cm) and im muscular and heavy at 240lbs (109 kg) my hometown prides itself on being polish, most polish men ive met in my life were near my height or taller…im friends with 4 brothers whom all are pure polish blood, and they all tower over me in height and weight..
i personally can tell if someone is polish, for the most part… we (in michigan) are a breed of hard working monsters who are struggling from a failed economy…
as far as the polish people being considered dumb, i think it might be derived and twisted from our ability to get hit over the head with a baseball bat, shake it off, and put the guy who did it out of his misery…
alas, my personal experiences with chicago and west michigan poles..
the reason why we you think we have bad street matters, is because we dont talk to people we dont know because we dont want to know you we just want to be on out way and thats it
P.S. I now live in Chicago
I have to disagree with a lot of what you said. Polish people are not rude when you get to know them. Many polish men are very tell, and most children are taller then other races. Another thing, polish people are drunks. Not trying to be rude to anyone, but we do drink a lot. Vodka is like our own product.
Hi! I am another random googler that landed on your blog searching for facial characteristic of Polish people. I see certain characteristics in my oldest daughter, myself, and my female cousin…wondering what part of our heritage they are.
Thanks for the post, it was a nice read.
Just a note, calling Lithuania a polish colony is a really good way to piss them off. I am 2nd generation Lithuanian in America, my parents get PISSED when people call the polish.
most of what you wrote on this website is bull, most polish men are tall, and youth, girls and boys, are usually tall now as i am and im still a kid, and if you really are truely polish you can tell a polish person form another, and polish people arent rude, look around if u piss someone of in any race they will be rude to you, so im guessing thats why you did. Oh and polish people do drink a lot, so btw unless ur polish you shouldnt be making up a website about the country or people ok.
im 50% polish, and i totally agree with the guy above me
Sorry to break it to you, but No.1 is incorrect. Studies have shown that Polish people, or more specifically men, are taller than most European groups. Their average height is 5’10”, but apparently the Dutch have the tallest average.
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Dear author! :)))
As you can see from the comments that emerged after you took a liberty to write about our dear polish friends, they have another very interesting characteristic: pride. The more stupid pole, the bigger the pride will be. Their pride is usually huge, and amazingly, mostly groundless:) I have to yet figure out what is it exactly they are so proud of…
By the way, about the green flag , RIGHT ON !
haha heyyy i was reading this and found it interesting although it took me awhile to get through it (ummm skipped alot) 🙂
My grandfather was Polish (hes dead it sounds weird to say he ‘is’ because to me he’s gone) BUT that was a tangent ha…
I was just interested in the facial features and build because when people ask me my heritage i obviously say polish and whatever else but they seem to pick the polish and say they can see it in me like i have high cheek bones and i dont know i was just interested in why they say they can see it.
Oh my. You are one angry person.
Everything you wrote has no sense, and is not true. You must be high or just plain scared of our culture because it’s not like yours.
People. everything on here is lies. Please do not believe this person. We are nothing like she described. This person makes us look like bunch of stupid, unmannered jerks.
And you are the authority on this topic how again…?
I immediately ceased taking your blog entry seriously when you used “it’s” incorrectly.
Cheers
Hi,
I’m an English expat working for a Polish company in the far east.
My immediate boss is Polish as is the MD of the company and several other colleagues.
I have found my Polsh boss and colleagues to be polite, respectfull and easy to get along with.
Yes, they have a tendency to consume industrial quantities of alcohol and can seem morose and maudlin at times.
The one characteristic that stands out is how loud they are when talking to each other and the tone of voice used.
It sounds like they’re having a massive arguement when in fact they’re simply enquiring as to the health of the wife and kids. Has anyone else noticed this ?
Also my boss, who’s in his early sixties, has a hatred of the Russians boardering on an obsession. Given his age and Poland’s recent history this is explainable. Younger Polish guys don’t seem to have the same hang up.
I don’t think the Poles complain too much. They seem a bit like the Brits; just get on with it.
Fu*$ the Brits
Best you could make changes to the webpage title Eleven things you always wanted to know about Polish people and weren’t in the least bit disinclined to ask Wyspianski unwinding to something more catching for your blog post you make. I enjoyed the blog post yet.
You’re an ignorant sad, sad person. I’m Polish.
Almost NOTHING you said was true about Poles. First off, as a 5’7″ female I’m considered short in my family, that’s above average in the US. Poles are far from being rude as a whole, what did YOU do to upset them? I’m assuming from this one post you’re English…your country has the stereotype of being rude with no personality. It’s also thought of as one of the least attractive countries (your few thousand years of inbreeding at work). How many supermodels are English? How many are Polish? You’re as ugly inside as I’m sure you are on the outside.
You proved his point that Poles are superficial nicely – spending half of your post calling English people ‘ugly’ (and talking about all of the supermodels from your amazing country). Of course you don’t understand how shallow that makes you seem. And the English are know for being rude? That has to be the STUPIDEST thing I have ever read. People from the UK are globally regarded as some of most polite people in the world (the expression ‘english manners’ comes from somewhere).
Oh, I read the comments and saw your picture, you are in fact, very unattractive, maybe because of the English inbreeding? I wouldn’t smile at you either. Why would I? Guys always take like it’s their lucky day && I would ever be interested. No, and ew.
About “1. giving up your seat on the bus to a female who is either a) pretty or b) likely to give you a severe ear-bashing if you don’t;
2. inviting people around to your house and plying them with food and drink in order to demonstrate that a) you have expensive stuff in your house and b) that you can afford to ply people with food and drink;
3. sucking up to people who may be able to do you a favor at some unforeseeable point in the future (elsewhere this is known as bribery).”
This is a total example of a typical English person, they all live in small houses comparing to Polish people, they always want others to think they are loaded, the car is more important than 52″ tv as this is what most people see them in, then they have kids at 16 and live in council association houses, maybe they will change their couture now that Cameron has lifted the limit of endless housing rights. There is much more to write about how rude and feckless English people (not all) are, as much as there is on any other country, but I appreciate that you did not only slag us off as a nation but also said a few good and more true things, other blogs only write about the bad things but don’t realise that all countries have good and bad things they are known for. Maybe you just don’t want to get beaten up by someone who could recognize you while visiting Poland. In terms of people being rude and have attitude on streets I suggest you take a trip to the centre of London, you will get a lot of loving and appreciation from Londoners – NOT! 🙂 (maybe your next topic? lol)
youre a racist fuck
Do all polish men have small (appendages)?
Polish people only care about money and how they look, theyre mean and insensitive. I lived in Poland for two years. If you dont go to the store in full dress looking beautiful people will look at you like you dont belong, like you should get shot!
Polish people are one of the meanest people in the world. they think they are a superior race.
Oh you poor thing ……… how difficult time you have had , my dear, with us superior race . Lucky you , you haven`t lived in Germany ! Then you would know what this ” superior race ” mean ……..
maybe you just didnt live in the right area. polish people dont only care about money actually money isnt so important to us. most polish people believe that you should dress nicely when you go out no matter where you go its just proper. when my mom was a kid it was embarresing for yourself to wear sweatpants when you take out the trash. We are not mean, and you are rude by assuming they are like that. It may only seem like Polish people think they are the superior race because we are proud of where we come from. In history we have fought for out country so many times.
I am polish born, live in Canada and in some aspects couldn’t agree more! When I visit Poland and family I go into “culture shock” (which amuses me due to my polish cynical and sarcastic sense of humor)… Cuz people are soooo damn rude! Warsaw is cold and brrrrr bitter! …. I find polish people (including myself an my family) very judgmental and always thinking we are right. All others “lack logic”… I personally think its a very pathetic and sad trait of our people as much as I love them. Also, some are more “refined” and won’t be as arrogant as others. I do hear there is a lot of emphasis on money, just not in my family directly. There are certain things I love about my roots but thank GOD that I do not live there! I’d seriously shoot someone! I can’t take the rudeness and I’m polish!!! (or maybe Canadian lol)
and yes i believe all polish men have small appendegaes! at least a certain one in Lodz does.
I visited England once and I must admit that in most cases people live in houses which they rent to others coz they can`t pay the morgages . That`s the rule . So there is no normal family life over there . The jokes about the Scots are only to hide english real nature – sly, stingy and mean . They live like pigs in a pigsty. They don`t wash themselves , taking a shower it is just a waste of money ! And they drink heavily . It seems like they have never enough of strong alcohol , they drink not by litres , it must be measured by hectolitres . It seems that everybody is drunk after work including females and kids. Some start drinking as early as the stores get opened . The majority of Brits are obese and ugly , and this uglyness t can`t be hidden by cosmetics . I have never met a pretty face over there among males or females . And what was striking me – big crooked teeth as if they never heard of orthodontist . They start coming to Poland now to have their teeth done , coz it is cheaper , lol . They are stingy so it explains the cause .
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I was born in the United States to Polish parents who came from two different areas of Poland, feuded incessantly, and ended up divorcing (not to mention, dragging me to court, wedging me between themselves, leaving me burnt beyond all belief, dealing with it on my own).
I have traveled to Poland many times.
It was hard growing up with a Polish ideology at home, and otherwise being immersed in Americana and growing up in upper suburbia.
My father drank away his problems (typical).
Although I speak, read, and write Polish fluently (I attended a Polish language school on Saturdays for the majority of my grade school years), I am far more drawn to the “American side” of myself. I’m open minded, sarcastic, witty, warm, and charitable. I enjoy my personal space.
Back in the day, when I used to do a lot of work within the Polish community, I was organizing charity events, cultural events, and contributing to a local Polish publication. All on my own time and dime. For this, I was accused of “being a self-promoting snob.” Sigh.
I don’t eat pork (I hate it), and no, I’m not Jewish. I don’t drink liquor. I don’t drive a Toyota or Nissan (the bland, go-to people movers you see parked at Polish gatherings here).
Polish people do not actively listen to what you’re saying. Perhaps this is why talk psychotherapy is something that never caught on over there.
Their world view has been indefinitely tainted by communism. So, someone’s personality and personal worth = their job/role in society.
They criticize everyone. I could never watch the news growing up with hearing about how the news reporter looks.
They are the biggest complainers I have ever met. To the point where I stopped attending Polish mass, because I’d hear the women gossiping about me DURING MASS.
They don’t have fun. They criticize people for having “too much fun.” Such as myself, with my collection of cars. I always get comments: How could I be so selfish? How can I waste money on “nothing?” I get extra layers of resentment because I’m female. 😦
Clearly, I posted on here as a way to release some of my resentment. If you’ve read up to here, thank you.
I am of Polish blood, and I respect many things about the culture, but I will not be part of the Polish community. I forgave the back stabbing and hypocritical abuse, but I will not be hurt any longer.
just thought id say that you have to get to know someone. Not everyone in Poland is the same. You can’t just assume everyone is the same. But most people in europe are partiers (including Polish people). Ive lived in Poland my whole life. Have you ever been to a Polish wedding? the only thing people do at those is party. but nice try.
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It seems to me that a number of your observations of the Polish people/culture comes from direct experience. However, many of your observations do not take into consideration certain historical aspects of polish culture. The sociopolitical climate during Solidarnosc in the eighties, rising above a Soviet communist regime, persecution of millions during World War II: all have attributed to the Pole’s social identity, and to a certain extent cultural identity as well. Previous posters and “island1” have mentioned Polish people to be rude and in certain social situations even callous or “judgemental”. I disagree with this statement. Throughout the Holocaust, two World Wars, the Turks, Ottomans, etc.; Polish people have been persecuted, killed, and governed since before its inception as a modern republic in 1919. The younger generation of poles are being influenced by the older generation that still harbors distinct isolationist tendencies, antisemitism, and xenophobia (though to a far less degree than say Japan for example). Therefore the idea that Polish people are rude is a generalization that doesn’t take into consideration the social climate that shaped these ideals.
Polish people do have certain muscular and skeletal formations in their face that designate a Slavic/Eastern European descent. High cheekbones and a prominent brow with light colored eyes are a product of environment (e.g. windy highlands with less sun). Therefore it is possible to determine if somebody is Polish by their face. This ability does take many years of observation and immersion in the polish culture however.
“Poles drink?!” Yes, many Poles do. Are you implying that Russians, Germans, Slovakians, Yugoslavians, Belarusians, Irish, Serbians, French, Italian, Greek etc. do not partake in rituals of drinking? Every culture has its own preconceived notions regarding the social consumption of alcohol. Poles may have a higher rate of alcohol consumption than the U.S. for example, but far less alcohol related deaths and DUI’s. The reason for that being drinking alcohol does not have such a stigma associated with it as in the U.S. Alcohol is taught to be a cultural ritual that is used in moderation in Poland, whereas in the U.S. it has become more of a “restricted entertainment”. Every culture has individuals who do not drink in moderation. They are called drunks and are not an adequate representation of an entire population sample.
Geographically wise, of course Poland has been invaded, annexed, governed by foreign ministries over its tenure as an European republic. Its position between Eastern Europe and western Europe makes it a geographically significant axis between these nations. Trade, especially through the Baltic sea, is a major component of the Polish economy. Throughout the 2000’s, Poland remained the only country in Europe that had a positive Gross Domestic Product rate, and continues to do so still. In addition Poland produces approximately 25% of Europe’s legumes/grains supply as well as tin, copper, and vast amounts of coal. It is a valuable location because of its agricultural impact on Europe, as well as its economical impact. This is precisely why Hitler invaded Poland in earnest after the acquisition of Austria in 1939. It provided the springboard for his war against Britain and the Allies.
Finally, I feel I need to question your understanding of European borders:
“Britain is “surrounded” by France, Holland, Scandinavia, and Ireland. Germany is “surrounded” by France, Scandinavia, and Poland. How come the Germans aren’t complaining that they’ve been subjected to consistent and unsporting invasion?”
Britain is “surrounded” by no landmasses. Ireland is a part of great Britain…which is an island. WATER is actually quite a deterrent; there are reasons why Hitler built his U-Boat battalions and had them patrol the Channel. At one point the Armadas of England and Spain were the most powerful military forces in the world because they could circumvent this obstacle. I can’t even explain that more clearly. The Germans only bombed Britain, rather than try a land invasion. As for your assertion that the French, Scandinavians, and Polish haven’t persecuted the Germans…I am honestly at a loss for words. Beyond the fact that Poland had only been an actual represented country since 1919 and had a relatively liberal political and militaristic stance, or that Scandinavia was a neutral country that actually helped the German transport goods and soldiers as well as provide Iron ore for the war effort, or the French who welcomed Hitler with a parade and a half-hearted defense at the Maginot line. The countries you mentioned were either neutral with barely any military presence, allies, or provided tens of thousands of men to the German army (according to statistics 38,000 French soldiers lost their lives under German command). The Germans have been invading consistently and “un-sportingly” since before World War I and have spat upon the “fair” Geneva Convention and Versailles Treaty numerous times.
Are Polish people short? Every population tends to have a bell curve in regards to height, with extremes in either direction of the spectrum respectively. I believe that you are making a generalization based on your own experiences rather than statistical fact. Regardless, Polish individuals are very much average in height, when taking the averages of the entire world.
Finally for the least serious topic: Are Polish Girls crazy?
Not necessarily. Every girl can be crazy or irrational regardless of nationality. I just prefer mine to be Polish AND crazy 🙂
Wow! Thank you. This is the most comprehensive and the most intelligent write up on this blog. Very well done. 🙂
Wow! This has been a long discussion. I came to this site because I love a Polish man who doesn’t know, yet, that I fancy him!
But I feel I must say that our English parish priest has NO manners. He opens doors and just walks through them in front of me and does not do any of the gentlemanly things that ladies expect – e.g. pull out chairs for us etc. He’s a good priest – but as a “gentleman” he’s a slob.
I’m sure my Polish man, when I get to know him, will be so different!!!!!!
As for rudeness, if saying what you think and giving an honest opinion is rude then so be it.
Tables manners do tend to go out of the window depending on how hungry you are – is that really so bad!!
Sucking up to people you may need a favour off in the future is always wrong and probably fruitless anyway cos you’ve probably chucked that much wodka down their necks they’ll not remember anyway.
Not a full Polak but Gran was and she was without doubt the most beautiful , honest person I have ever met.
Dear Author,
You are very wrong on so many levels. For one, Polish people are not short. Some are short, but the majority is TALL. I am Polish, I have many Polish friends, and I have visited my country 7 times. 90% of Poles are tall. Also with manners, Polish people may not respect men, but when it comes to women they are very respectful. All women in Poland have the utmost respect from men. Table manners are also very important in Poland. If you were in a pub, then I am not surprised as Polish people are heavy drinkers, but in general we respect dinner time and expect manners at a table. Lastly, how can you not tell if a person is Polish?? Polish, Russians, Ukrainians, and Czechs, all have very similar facial people. After all, they all belong to the Slavic family.
Please get your facts straight next time
This is 100% right, I Love You for saying this 🙂
You Mela are my hero 😀
“All women in Poland have the utmost respect from men”. HAHAHA. I almost fell of my chair laughing from that one. Polish men are among the most sexist anywhere in the non-muslim world. Sure, they buy ’em a flower, open a door, and offer up a few other meaningless gestures, but for any observant human, women in Poland are considered second class citizens by men. Period. They are not considered equal in ANY way – their role is ‘to serve’ and look nice. Pay attention!:)
I agree with you all the way Mela. As for ,island1, the author of this entry, you really need go over your facts. I am a Polish-American and I’m 5’10- 5’11. Note that I am a girl and not a ‘short arse’ as you would say. Really the way that people judge us. Yes we may be known for some things more then others, but making false assumptions about us and not actually asking or looking into it more is sort of annoying. All races have their good and bad sides.
The Questions:
1- Proved it. Not all poles are short. Depends on family traits. (If I were to judge like you I would say that most girls in Chicago are short-compared to me)
2- Yes, there are unique traits that stand out to the point of identifying a Pole or at least identifying a European. It depends on the persons ability to recognize diffrences in facial characteristics (I can identify another Polish person around me.)
3- I agree. Anywhere pretty much.
4- Are Polish ppl rude? That depends on the person. Not all Poles are rude. Though from what I have noticed, Poles do judge other races. Just like anyone else.
7- Yes Polish people are known for drinking a lot.
9- “Crazy Polish Women”….*sigh* really?
Anyway. Sometimes I sigh from the stupidity of all races. I dont consider myself as a full Pole or a full American person. I’m a bit of each, but I will stand-up for my side and what I believe in. Making us seem different then from we really are is stupid. You had your own experience where it might have not been so well, but that does not mean that we act like that all the time.
Hmm…..how to end….I’ll quote Mela^
“Please get your facts straight next time”…See ya!
Wll shit son, if you have nothing good to say about Poland, you always criticize it, you don’t like our customs, ways, traditions and the way we look or talk then why don’t you move back to your precious England, where people with crooked teeth will get you some nice tea to dry your tears?
Polish people are the rudest people I’ve ever met! They are loud, don’t respect their neighbors, don’t give a damn. They’re awful. The most used word in the Polish language is “kurwa” and “pierdolic”, both translate as “fuck”.
I agree with the guy who said young Polish men dress as hooligans and the girls dress to kill (actually the fashion police should come to this country! LOL)
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I’ve been in touch with Polish guys for almost two years and yes they are so mean, insensitive, superior race and racist! I was so blind for not realizing those traits earlier, maybe because I’m a fucking stupid jerk. I found somebody (Polish Guy) closer to me, I liked him so much more than that, he always makes me smile and I know he likes me too. Oh btw appreciated his effort of staying up late just to be with me.
But everything ended up into nothing. He’s a liar a user! Second time in a row I was searching for a friend in UK (chat) I don’t know why I always end up to a Polish guy. I think large part of UK could be considered a Polish Colonies. True?? And guess what they’ll come from failed marriage/ divorced. I wonder how they treated woman. (Rude) Sorry I’m not referring to all this is just based from my experience. Now I know what “kurwa” means THANK YOU Mister (ES) 😉
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i have to have an argument with these things because i am polish and i do live in poland.
first of all Polish people compared to americans are not short. When i went to america the people were very short!
second maybe it doesnt seem like this to anyone that lives in america but yes we can tell by facial features who is polish. generally speaking polish people do have a certain nose and shape of the face. When i came to america i can tell right away if they were polisha nd most of the times i heard them speak in polish too.
Polish people can be rude but they aren’t. when i came to america i was shocked to see no manners from anyone. everyone in america is very rude. In poland people have a lot of manners.
and poland was not responsible for any killing of people following the jewish religion. that is very mistaken.
Americans are rude? Sure, they can be, but compared to Poles you think they’re rude? You’re either on drugs or just another dishonest Pole. In basic social situations Americans are much, much, more polite, friendly, helpful, and considerate than the average Pole. I’ve lived in both places (US for twelve years and Poland for seven), so i can speak to this better than a ‘tourist’ like I’m sure you were.
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Yea i hate Polish people they are so rude! insensitive and user. ..
Ur a dum ass
POLSKA!:) I dont really have anything bad to say about Polish people they are hard working, women take care of them selfs, they know how to cook and clean, have well raised families, go to church, proud, good lovers, and the women KNOW HOW TO KEEP THEIR MENNN, once you fall inlove with a Polish woman its tough to get out, in a good way;)
God bless North America!
Im not against them or anything. Every Polish person i met look alike. I looked up pictures on google and the girls mostly have those bubblish lips and those cute round eyes. The boys also sometimes have those round lips or flat lips and round eyes. My friend would CONSTANTLY mention that she is polish. Im russian and she somehow understands russian better than i understand polish since the languages are sort of alike. And she CAN be a bit bossy and always in the lead. 😦
I’m a Canadian engaged to a Polish guy. I spend my summers in Poland. I have to say the cultural politeness is very different from that of Canada. I find the men are very loud and overbearing and basically pumped full of testosterone so they talk louder and louder over each other. I find the men have this ritual of shaking hands when they approach a group but never acknowledge the women. Compared to Canada, the drinking is VERY heavy. Having multiple hard-liquor drinks at a meal each day is the norm and drinking into the night is extremely common. In Canada, maybe a beer, two tops but a mickie of vodka is quite extreme. They defiantly are offended when you choose not to drink at a meal.
As for looks I would say Polish women are very well put together. All women have their hair done nicely when they go out and are clean and polished with tans and their nails done. They always wear nice clothing and ALWAYS have heels on. I can’t seem to figure out these young mothers who wear heels pushing their strollers down cobblestone roads….boggles my mind why they wouldn’t wear supportive shoes. I think this is partly where the concept of “rude” and “greedy” come from. The fact that they wear stilettos to the grocery stores presents a shallowness and narcissistic attitude (as opposed to relaxed, functional footwear) about the culture and I think North-American’s perceive this as eluding to being materialistic and stuck up. In Canada, if you were to wear similar clothing to the grocery store you would defiantly get weird looks. It’s funny cuz the Polish men do seem to dress like bums overall.
As for the money-hungry part. From my own experience, my fiance came into A LOT of money and the first thing that happened was his family had their hands out waiting for presents and gifts. Examples: his dad bought a new house and gladly accepted $250 000 CAD to pay for the whole thing instead of accepting only enough to pay what was left over of the mortgage after using the money from the house he just sold …and didn’t even offer to put my fiance’s name on the deed. My fiancee’s aunt and uncle from Poland sent us a mile-long list of what they wanted us to bring them when we only have so much room in our luggage (expensive perfumes, GAP clothing, electronics etc). My fiance bought himself a F150 truck but his dad HAS to drive it to his work to show it off to his coworkers as if the two trucks he already owns can’t get him from point A to point B. My fiance bought a BMW 335i here in Poland and his uncle insists on driving it to church and work, leaving us stranded to take the taxi. My fiance took myself, his aunt & cousin shopping and OMG I was embarrassed they wanted & had my fiance buy so much clothing they couldn’t carry all the bags to the car. There’s even been random people approach my fiance for money just because they are both Polish. Or the childhood friend from Poland needing money because their coke-sniffing husband landed them in trouble. My personal opinion is the Polish culture is very materialistic, maybe because the country isn’t as well off in some parts as we are in North America, but still I can say appearances, whether it be physical or material, are a big part of the culture as a whole.
hmmmm, sounds familiar to me..what’s your ex fiance’s name? I prolly know him
You are a small minded imbecile.
…and you’re a typical Pole. Name calling and rude.
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Is the word “Pollack” pejorative? I’m very curious about this.
Actually, it depends on how you use it. The meaning of the word Polak is Polish person-specifically Polish man as the language has gender differentiations. So, Polish men will refer to themselves as Polak. However, this term has been bastardized in the English language and often it is used in a derogatory fashion. Hope this clears it up. 🙂
I have read through these comments with interest. There are rude people in every country and indeed beautiful and ugly people in every country and not all beautiful people are nice! I think all English, Polish, White Russians, Germans, northern French people look the same and only have different languages and general cultural differences. Same for the Italians, Spanish, southern French, Portuguese, Greeks, Albanians, Romanians look the same too. I am glad to say that I have a wide range of friends-Finnish, Dutch, Lithunian, French, Serbian, Jewish, Indian, Chinese, Korean, Phillipino. I am married to a Chinese and I am of Irish, Scottish, French, English, Spanish descent.
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i was born in poland and moved to america and i must say yes polish people are “short on change” but they have huge hearts and id rather be a broke loving guy with many freinds, than a rich asshole with fake freinds so i say this with all due respect fuck off, you dont know anything about us. go guess things on other races/cultures and write like you know what your saying again, i find it ammusing
To Anonymous just great that you can’t put your name down. In reply to slagging me off with name calling and swearing at me! Just shows me how immature you are! Okay you were born in Poland and moved to America; Poland must have thrown a party the day that you moved to America and by the way you are not Polish you are American and one of the minority that are
thrash! I never said anything about Polish people being bad in fact my daughter-in -law is Polish and I have met many from Poland whom are very nice people and certainly not like you! You don’t know the meaning of respect. I don’t happen to be rich at all and have had too work two jobs until I retired, I am in my sixties and I am still working and my friends don’t happen to be fake at all. Learn manners and be polite in future because I doubt with your attitude you have any friends!!
…One vote from here that Polish girls are pretty & nuts…Fell in love w/one when I was 19-20, married her & she broke my heart. Twice. Took awhile to get over that….Polish girls learn their skills from their mothers, like all girls do…If your potential Polish mother in law gives you the cold yet polite shoulder, Run Forrest, Run!…
I eventually got over the pain of getting my heart ripped out twice & since then take consolation in knowing that she has been busy for years screwing up other guys lives. This is what they do.
..What’s the difference between a wake & a sunday afternoon dinner in a polish house?….At the wake, at least the corpse is smiling…There ya go.
You are English right,and talking about manners?loool
try to stop in middle of road in Oxford street,people will push you like a piece of meat.take a walk in friday midnight in centre-many people behaving like animals,they r noisy,agresive,looking or fight,kicking in bins,layng on pavements…
if you go to even a posh restaurant in england,the stuff is treating you as a piece of shit,ignoring,and behave arogantly.-this is never happen in solid restaurant in my slavistic country.-whatever you are wearing,however you look,you are treated equally as a costumer with respect.
talking about crazyness in polish women? look on english women in friday evening-drunken,smoking,takin drugs and go home with another drunken lad,and next friday another lad.
money-well,polish might seem to envy because they just talk about it but when english get jealous,they will cruely get you in troubles.-at woek,shool,they envy easterneuropean look,or envy higher inteligence you name it..i see every day.
what i hate on engligh mentality is they are money greedy sooo much and will do anything for it.like there wasnt any other much beautiful things in world than just a carier and money.its a sad thing…money hunger destroied your country that was good 60 years ago not now.
all the school system for example,u ripping of (especialy)international students-after they pay solid cash you leave them and doesnt matter if they will get a skills and jobs in futures,all they got is famous london education that should be enough right?well u can take that paper and use it in toilet.polish,slovakia,czech,hungarian education is 50 times more better than english.and if these nations wanted to show ya whos dat king here,they would,belive me.strait away:-) matter of time:-)
Have lived in UK since 2001, I come from Romania. Though I find SOME Polish people a bit abrupt and rude, I am sure they are all different; same as Romanians, English 🙂 But I do agree with you, with what you say about English men and women. And I don’t mean it in a superior or sarcastic way, because I believe that they do not realise the way they are perceived, they do not really care and I sincerely believe that they need help. Anyway, all the best to all of you no matter the country, language, colour, sex… Love you all xxx
dont worry polish people,he is just one of english with mental issues and low inteligence.
I worked where there were Polish in good retail stores jobs, but cleaning, don’t get me wrong,I would/will have done it! I am out off work now. Maybe the gov’t pay extra for these folks…best of luck. I may be cardboard box by end of x yr.
My grandmother made coffee using a beaten egg in the coffee grounds. I’ve tried and cannot get it right and my grandmother has been gone for many years now. Her coffee was outstanding! Does anyone know how to make coffee this way?
Wow, so many stereotypes. When I moved to the London, I thought Brits were quite short and this after having lived in East Asia for a few years. I’m a Polish-Canadian woman, 180 cm tall and about an average height for women in my family. To read an Englishman describe Polish people as rude is quite rich. I could understand some people of other nationalities weighing in on that and coming up with a similar conclusion, but come on you’re English. No you don’t cut in line, but rudeness is rampant on British streets, in shops, workplaces, etc. Good manners are important in Poland, regardless of your socio-economic background, as is a good education. Although in the years following the fall of communism, consumerism has become rampant, I wouldn’t think it’s any worse that in many Western European, North American, or for that matter, East Asian countries. Wealth and status symbols are very important in British society, as is social class. I have actually never lived in a country (and I lived in a few) where an apparently modern society was as stratified and segregated by class, language (dialects and accents), and geography (northern, southern, midlands). Your knowledge of history and geography is dreadfully inadequate. Although I’m assuming that coming out of a British education system it would be difficult to gain much knowledge in more than 2 or 3 subjects. Britain, last I checked is surrounded by the North Sea, Atlantic Ocean, the Channel and a few other smaller bodies of water. It doesn’t share a border with other countries (apart from Ireland). This aspect of British geography is particularly useful in deterring invasions. You showing pride in your country’s colonial past shows very poor taste; is this a British thing? You are proud that your country exploited countries and people across the globe for financial gain only to squander everything in less than a century? Do Poles drink? Hell yes, unfortunately. But again coming from a Brit?! I could understand a fellow Canadian making this comment… Binge drinking is rife throughout UK, among men and women. As for the staring, it’s a cultural thing. Having finally moved back to Canada, it took me a couple of months to get used to the fact that I could look at people without any strange, negative feedback. And was reminded that it took me even longer to learn to avoid eye contact completely with strangers when I first moved to the UK. Are all Brits short, rude, ignorant, arrogant, drunks… certainly not, but there are enough to give that impression, if that is what you’re looking for.
The heart of your writing while sounding reasonable initially, did not settle properly with me personally after some time. Somewhere throughout the sentences you were able to make me a believer unfortunately only for a very short while. I still have got a problem with your jumps in assumptions and one would do well to help fill in those gaps. In the event you actually can accomplish that, I will definitely end up being fascinated.
ummmm where are you getting that information that Polish people are short. I beg to differ. My family is from Poland and yes not mixed until my direct Grandfather with other ancestry (His being Welsh, German). My great grandparents were tall, my grandmother is 5’8, the men in our family stand at 5’11 to about 6’5. The shortest person in my family is one female cousin who stands 5’7. When I was a tour guide I had a group of Polish people and I can say it’s the first time I wasn’t towering over midget Americans. Everyone in the group, men and women alike were my height or taller (I’m 5’9 1/2). Though I am mixed unlike my grandmother and great parents, our height comes from our Polish side. You can’t just put people in a box. Are you also going to say all Germans are blonde and blue eyed…I know a girl who is German she could double for Snow White she was gorgeous with long black curling hair and the whitest skin. Do you assume most Poles are blonde and fair haired too. My family from Poland is all dark with blue eyes being dominant. My grandmother though was born with platinum blonde hair which turned to dark brown as she aged. They have darker skin, more olive colored, compared to my cousins and I who are mixed with German, we do have lighter hair and my grandfather whose Welsh/German genes bought us green eyes. Maybe the area of Poland you were in or people you were meeting from were an area where short people did indeed dominant and they may have been blonde and fair you can’t stereotype all Poles to be that way.
soo comment number 4. Poles are basically Slytherins. lol Also your description pretty much sound like ppl in Massachusetts so I guess they all immigrated here. This is the rudest country hands down and I live in the rudest state of it.
Im polish and i find this entry very insulting, we are not at all short as most of the women in my family are around an average of 5″6′-5″7′ and the men are even taller, we r also not at all rude, anyone would be rude if they were pissed off so u must have angered the polish ppl u encountered in some way, and yes maybe we do like to drink some but we r not all drunks. Whoever wrote this has some kind of problems with poles and none of this whatsoever is based on any kind of factual info, so please do not believe what this person has written about Polak’s for it is not true and highly insulting!
I am of Polish descent somewhere along the line (about 2 or 3 generations), though I am believing this less and less each day due to nearly/absolutely no searchable records of my ancestors arriving in America.
Every person has their own opinion of others and they are entitled to that. Personally I look down at those of higher social stature (to go back to the “manners” conversation), whether this is due to them thinking me “trailer trash”, their inability to have fun aside from drinking champagne, or them socially “spitting” at me, I am not sure. I myself was raised to be respectful of everyone.
Everyone chooses to think their country/region is “above” another at some point in time. Saying that something is “typical” of another’s nationality is very stereotypical, actually, and I’m sure that these people don’t realize they are driving themselves deeper into a hole (as I am sure I am doing as I write this). But as I said earlier, every person has their own opinion.
As one of maybe 5 (if that many) Polish people in my tiny town in southern Indiana, I have heard my share of Polish jokes and stereotypes. I commonly ignore them or deal with them as I choose. However, when these jokes (or people in general) get out of hand, I speak up. I will admit this has gotten me into troublesome situations when my mouth speaks before my brain has a chance to think. My friends and mother say that when I get excited (angrily so), they can definitely see some Polish characteristics.
When it comes to height and looks, I am about 5’10, surpassing my Polish father (5’9) and my mother, who is of many nationalities, (5’8). I have blonde/light brown hair and light blue eyes with subtle specks of green. Three of my friends are foreign exchange students, all of Germany, however one is half Russian and has lived in Poland for part of her life. They said they could, at times, see the Polish features in me.
Well, I have added my two bits into this conversation, so I shall leave to let the condescending remarks fly. (I am honestly not as snarky as I sound, I suppose I am just tired lol)
10 things about what “This is” :
1.a Pure- hatred.
2.Generalized- to the maximum.
3.Funny- cause you put so much energy to put it.
4.Sad- cause it was not worth it, neither was worth reading.
5.a Bunch of lies- seems that you were frustrated writing it.
6.An angry blog. Do you play angry birds?
7.Showing you are negative person with blinders on your eyes, cause you simply- even after traveling to Poland and meeting Poles- haven’t gotten any clue who are these people.
8.Hence- this is your primitive world of your personal interpretation.
9.Even more sad- None of the stories make you seem as an intelligent, witty, relaxed or down to earth person.
10.a Nonsense-None of it makes sense – as Enstein said:
“Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex… It takes a touch of genius – and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.”
This is 75% fake we r nice, tall, and awesomw
I agree with Avatar
Ur wrong , poles r cool
OK. I never write comments but I must say something. I started reading your little numbers of things about Polish people I dont know where you are from I didnt ready everything but let me explain, I am from Poland speak it and live it. Currently I live in Chicago. FIRST,When I walking down the street I can tell if someone is Polish or not, so you make me laugh, its not about the clothes they have good or normal fashion sense everyone is different. Anyways its their faces, they have very strong characteristics. SECOND, Polish people are talllll, usually, again everyone is different, haha but I dont know what you are talking about? THIRD drinking vodka is normal I dont see my life without vodka, my father comes home after doing construction with his friends who also work with him and the first thing is not dinner, its sitting down at the table with the vodka. And FOURTH, Polish people are very very polite, manners and going to church is very important although Polish women love little rumors and talking, they are not rude to people on the street nor to strangers. How ever they have strong characters, they may be loud, rude, and crazy, but this is around their friends and family, or if their boyfriend does something bad. THAT is a Polish person.
Agnieszka
It’s a blog. Which means that it is the author’s opinion. It’s also, I’m guessing, supposed to be snarky in order to draw the reader in. Signed, A proud Wisniewski.
polish ppl are great!! they even have the north pole and the south pole named after them ffs
.. not to mention the fat bearded guy aka’ santa ‘.. he’s got to be polish right?? billing address ‘ north pole’ it all makes sense to me.
I see a lot of people here think that being tall makes them superior to those who are short. Tell me how being tall is more important than being intelligent, wise, polite, respectful, good-natured, etc…
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I am doing such a wonderful search in finding this site. Thank you! So finally I know what kind fo person that I had been loving so far. I have boy friend who are Polish and become immigrant in USA. I have been planning to marry and because one other things I need to back to my home country to take care of my documents. Since I have been leaving my country for 6 months I lost my job and it’s difficult to find new one since crisis time and my country in asia didn’t recognize part time type of job only contract and permanent.
Whe leaving my Polish man, he gave me money to cover the bill during I manage the document before I back to USA, for sure I got freelance job too to cover my own bill but not as before that I had good living with nice position and salary. The time when documents are ready, I did ask special thing that if he can help me to send small money to contribute of document process he said something that make me so bad. And i think it’s my mistake to ask him, it’s just very very very small money. common even he will not give it then I can try to look for in my own way as freelance employee. He did give the money ( I can write in here but it’s small) but then what I got? the day after that I could not make a phone call to him, i could not receive email from him, or even text message. What’s going on? if I did mistake just talk and here is the main point? my document ready then he make a joke about our plan to get marry? He didnt want to pick up my phone call even to say HI or let’s talk and discuss the problem to get solution. What’s the hell is he doing to me? I was so hurt, my ticket cancelled, my efford for documents was so useless, I even didn’t know what is my status now? broke up? oooh common guy, speak up. Once time, I tried call and he pick up then just disconnected after hearing my voice. What was he doing? so hurt!! just talk and discuss what is the best for us. I have been doing so much efford, leaving my nice position, leaving my offering good job in other country, not even he gave me anything to support me.
So i was thinking that may be because of money money and money that not related so much with our relationship. I am not a kind of materialistic girl. I even spend alot of my own money for us. And now, I am living with sadness job, small penny and nothing and he is having party party party as like my friend told me. He divorced with his first wife because of money and i was thinking that he could be take a revenge to me.
COWARD, that I can see on him and of course on some of Polish community person that I met. Yeah they like gossip that they are better than other. The cloths, the things…. for me it’s crazy.
I wish I found this site before I met this guy and decided to marry with him so I will not get this kind of treatment. mosly you are right about the Polish. Now i understand why Money is always become hot topic in everytime we talk, he would like to show that he is Polish with good money, can do anything, hate his own society but he did the same things like other Pollack people. Not good manner even to end up the relationship. And don’t know what’s happen with my stuffs that valuable for me there. He look like a kind of Coward Polish man with un Manner habbit even he is not young anymore. For me, not a matter of money or fortune people has, the kind heart of act is the good point to value a poeple. I was so late to found this blog if not I will not so get hurt and being a pitty woman trying to call him up and asking for apologize for nothing?????
Thanks to give me such a wonderfull thought about Polish character. I agree with you.
Wtf… I don’t know why I read this. I don’t usually take the time to comment, but I feel I need to do so for this post. Here are some of my opinions and few actual statistics (as opposed to what you made up in your mind) you might find interesting:
1. The average height in Poland is about the same as the average height in the US and UK (5’9.3″ in Poland vs. 5’9.4″ in the US and 5’9.1″ in the UK). How is that “short”…?
2. Polish people don’t “scowl”. They are real. They don’t have a fake smile prepared for everyone they run into on the street.
3. I’m sorry you are so angry about not being able to have a discussion with a Polish woman. Judging your character based on your post, I wouldn’t talk to you either.
4. Polish people are rude and they only look at you in terms of social status… I’m sorry, have you heard of “projecting”? Because it would seem that you are projecting the way YOU feel about people. “I wouldn’t expect you to understand – it’s pretty advanced stuff”. That’s a pretty conceited statement coming from you. Just sayin’…
5. I don’t even know what you’re getting at with this argument… “Most of these cigarettes have, in fact, been smuggled across the Ukranian border secreted in the undergarments of Polish grandmothers”. Um, what? Do you know this from experience? 😉
6. Poland once covered 1 million square miles and decided who was to be the next czar of Russia. Call it what you want, colonies of whatever, but Poland was once very influential. Too bad it got fucked over by so many countries.
7. “Poles drink”. This must be the most informative paragraph of the bunch! Yes, Poles drink. As do most countries as long as they are not Islamic. Good job.
8. Congratulations! Again, yet another brilliant paragraph. As with most countries that drink, you get pictures of drunk people! What exactly are you trying to prove here…?
9. “Crazy Polish women”. This seems interesting. Let’s look at some statistics, shall we? What exactly do you mean by “crazy”? Are you referring to mental illnesses? Because if that’s the case, the US has the highest rate of mental illnesses by far (over 26% of people are thought to have a mental illness). Poland is nowhere close to that. So you are attacking Poland why…? If you were to single out a country based on how “crazy” or mental they are, why wouldn’t you single out the US instead? You don’t make any sense.
10. Why did I read this paragraph? In fact, why did I read this post? Boring…
11. Wow, just wow. Poles represent the biggest number of people who rescued Jews during the Holocaust… Some estimates put the number of Poles involved in rescue at up to 3 million, and credit Poles with saving up to around 450,000 Jews. 6,266 Poles have been given the “Righteous Among Nations” award by the State of Israel. So please, don’t make me laugh.
So, there you go. Stop being a hater, and I suggest you get a more productive hobby than insulting an entire nation. 😉
Lol this guy from my school just moved here from Poland and he’s exactly like that! Especially the part about how rude they are XD! If he doesn’t want to talk me he says it directly!! Lol! They’re arrogant as well, well at least he is!
I read about one and a half sentence before coming to the conclusion; you’re British, aren’t you?
I find Polish migrants to the UK very rude and unfriendly, even if you try to be welcoming to them they ignore and reject the locals. They refuse to integrate. How would they feel if I arrived in a Polish village and started judging them and behaving in a cold unfriendly manner. If Poles learnt more English and showed more respect to others they might be better accepted, they’re only guests in our country. Their racist and homophobic views are unacceptable in 2012
Srsly, all that judgement on the differences instead of appreciation on how interesting the different cultures could be? Eh.
Let me explain some things:
– in Poland, dressing like a thug outside one’s home is considered offensive to the people one’s going to meet in such a state; so dressing up is _not_ an effort to show off but rather an effort to show YOU some respect.
– while being wealthy is often considered as a sign of one’s resourcefulness (one of the most praised qualities for Polish), one zloty in Poland is worth about as much as one pound in Britain, despite one pound costing about six zloty’s on the currency market – so if you are British better DON’T discuss the money with the Polish because you are very likely to accidentally insult our resourcefulness.
– if you are a man sending huge smiles to the women in Poland, it’s likely that you are seen as flirting; not smiling back is a polite way of saying ”sorry, not interested;” they may already have their boyfriends, girlfriends, or just not be in the mood – all the same reaction.
– ”Pollack” is basically what a Pole calls hirself written in English language; you won’t insult the Poles that way – be careful with the other nations, though. Mistaking them with us is offensive.
– while many of the Polish are generally very open people, some do have xenophobic tendencies which, unlike these in Britain, manifest mostly in loud talking and writing about ”not wanting such people here” and not wanting to interact – and nothing more; for each person who says a thing like that you’ll find several outraged about hir rudeness, anyway. It’s the politicians that are conservative – I guess that it’s because of the age-barrier for the parliament senate and presidency (I don’t exactly remember but it’s sth like one needs to be 30 yo or more to even try – so the people who are still much traumatised from the wars.)
I should also mention that some symbols that are racial insults in Britain are used in a very different ways in Poland – for example, it was weird to learn that the ”you’re so wild” gesture that one guy tried to use to pick me up, and which is sometimes used to ridicule some people’s hyperactive behaviour – in Britain would be a racial slur and read as ”back to the jungle.”
All the Rzeczpospolita, including Polish region, was a multicultural country before the Nazis killed about 3mln of Polish Jews and the Soviets arranged the ethnic-motivated forced migration to people’s respective countries of origin and the Catholic Church offered the help in the fight with the Soviets (because of that, many people performed the Catholic rituals regardless of whether they believed in the Catholicism or not; by the force of habit it goes on).
– the most praised qualities are different in Poland to these in the other countries; saying ”because one day we might need their help” is more socially acceptable in Poland than usually more truthful statement of ”because that’s what the decent people do” – as using the second one could show talker’s vulnerable side by possibly picturing hir as a naive person. Showing a vulnerable side to someone who isn’t your long-since-a-life-partner indeed can be a big no-no-NOPE for the Poles 😉 .
Sometimes I laugh that if the countries’ cultures were put trough the Rowling’s Sorting Hat, present day Poland could be a Slytherin – but years ago, shi would be a hat-stall between Gryffindor and Slytherin. The Soviet way of ”dealing” with the charismatic and openly-opposing Poles, was a reason enough for such change of attitude (if the target was just a beginner, shi just ended up with a ruined career, while the great numbers of the leaders of the old country were secretly murdered.)
The trauma usually goes down the family line for several generations, so many of the individual Poles still tend to demonstrate that they are invincible – loud speech and demonstrative (usually fake) heartlessness are two of many symptoms for that.
– blaming the foreigners for having difficulties with the only language the blamer speaks is rich.
– the Poles are one of the nations which have a very unique sense of humour; all these years of making fun of our miserable political predicament had rubbed off and there is a type of joke that probably is funny only to the Poles – the type based on regional differences and/or stereotypes. It’s a bad manner to do that in English language when not asked, though – this thing about the regional accent could originate from that, although I’m not sure.
I just want to comment on the British things coming up in here. As a Brit going to Poland in September to study for a year(going to Lodz) I came here looking for anything that could help me prepare a bit for the new culture I would be living in for the next year. I know these are stereotypes and not everyone is like this but anything that could help would well… help.
But now to British bashing. You guys are generally correct most of the times with your low opinion of Britain. Why is that? Because we have that stupid island mentality. We think the things that happen in Europe don’t affect us and we are better than those on the continent. Just look at David Cameron, what a tool, and he represents us in Europe and to the world. Britain still believes it is a world power, when we are anything but, we have so many problems but don’t want to see them. Narrow-minded and short sighted, that’s us.
However, I think people here do have good manners, at least I was raised to have good manners and pride myself on them. I lived in Scandinavia and their lack of manners were really noticeable to me. My girlfriend at the time explained to me, that they were raised to have different manners from what we Brits(or Scots in my case) were. When she was in Scotland, she actually got frustrated from our overuse of the words “please” and “thank you”. Cultures are different, and this changes what the norms are, so what to one person is considered ill-mannered is to another person normal.
As for the thing about height, stupid comments. I’m 194(or 6 foot 4″) so to me, everyone is small. It’s all a matter of your own perspective. I think people in Scotland, in particular the women are all small even in high heels. In Norway they were taller but again, perspective. You can’t generalize everyone, but we just naturally do anyway.
And one last thing on the British thing. I’m British though I call myself Scottish. Every time someone bashes Britain you are also abusing Scots, Welsh and the Irish. All three of them have different cultures from England, though people make the assumption they are the same. Not true at all. I like to think Scots are a bit more aware of what other countries have to offer and are tolerant towards other cultures and their differences. There are exceptions but overall I like to think we are welcoming and treat all comers with respect. Do we think we are better than other countries? Heck no, which is one of the differences between Scots and the English. The English think their country is amazing and the best in the world(look at their sports teams). So when people abuse Brits, remember you are slandering 4 different cultures, who might not act/feel the same on the issue.
There’s a lot of anti-England/English graffitti pops up around Edinburgh. Scotland has some of the warmest people in the Union, but don’t kid yourself that it’s all sweetness and light up there.
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Good read. Going through the responses has been fun as well. I lived in Poland for many years and the only people that don’t find the majority of Polish people rude and lacking basic social etiquette (in multiple ways) are either A: Polish people (surprise!) or B: People who didn’t actually LIVE there – (being a tourist, receiving the famous ‘Polish hospitality’ for a week, or having a nice Polish neighbor in London doesn’t count). Every expatriate I met in Poland (numbering in the hundreds) agreed on this basic point: Poles, in general, and in a many ways, are rude as hell.
Bitch.. you are dumb and IGNORANT. Unless your grandparents were in the Holocaust, it is NOT okay for you to say such stupid shit. My heart is BREAKING for my dziadziu who sat in Birkenau for you to say such HATEFUL and disgusting things. Seriously, would you like to know how I picture you?! Dark, frizzy hair, hairy/dirty armpits, intent on getting your master’s degree (at least), close-minded but the kind of individual who claims “everyone should be free to marry”, living in a “loft” and painting in your “free time” with a dumb glass of chardonnay.. You are a DUMB CHILD. I hope your future “mate” cheats on you with another person.. pierdol się.
You are so incredibly rude and you should post a picture of yourself and see how you like it when people comment on your ugly hair or dirty face and I bet you have dirt on your face.
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English man and in my 8th year of having long-term stays in Poland. Writing this while in Poland. What strikes me more and more amongst Polish males is that unless they are students or old, almost every male dresses to a standard that in England would have you marked as a criminal. That awful mohawk hairstyle is everywhere, even when visiting what should be respectable busineses, bad tracksuits or leather jackets and seemingly all driving awful 10 year old BMW’s that they’ve had to take a loan to buy.
The amazing part is that these guys are 99.9% absolutely fine lovely people. Where/how/why they took on this ‘fashion’ style is a mystery, but it’s a bad look chaps.
I am proudly polish living in english speaking country.
I am rather a petite women with highly slavian facial features.)))
I absolutely hate and cant understand ..How are you today…7 times a day from the same person !!–please and I am not a rude person.
Love you all people and please respect each other thats all. !!
Polish people are the worse ever. My next door neighbor and the one below me is Polish and let me tell you these people are rude, selfish and ignorant. I live in a 100 years + building and the floor creek everywhere and they just complaint and complaint for not apparent reason. No, I don’t play loud music nor have party, but I do come home later from work around 10 PM and they still complaint to the owner.
They want peace and quiet and I told them that if they want peace and quiet that they should buy a 40 acress farm and move out so they can have privacy and quietness. They think that they are entitled to the whole building-Fucking people. The next place I move to I don’t want to see Polish people EVER. I dislike these people. Shit people from Europe…
i dont agree with you at all. iam polish living in US and in NY its so easy to spot a polish person but …you will never understand that!!!
shitty people from UK..
FUCK YOU YOU STUPID BRITISH CUNT!!!!! IM POLISH AND FUCKING PROUD
^Now, this is a typical Pole. Proud of what? Aside from the women, sausage and the Vodka your country sucks balls. Rude, racist, alcoholic, assholes with shaved heads and no sense of humour. Your schools are shit, your healthcare is shit, your roads are shit, your arts and culture scene is shit, your manners are shit, and you’re a bunch of uptight catholics who are about as ‘christian’ in deed as the dark lord himself.
If our schools are shit why so many people from other countries come to poland to study? hmmm? you are a fucking idiot, with probably really low iq, who doesn’t know shit about art culture and history. So fuck off from poland or its people, You daft prick.
Got to say you are an idiot! Polish people are so nice except the girls are stuck up. Polish people are in a hurry like New Yorkers. You can tell them from a mile away but it is mostly mannerisims/body language. And you drive on the wrong side! And what idiot thinks Polish people are short. shows how much you know. You probably can”t tell your ass from a hole in the ground or find your way out of a shower of shit.
So polish people are so nice except for 50% who are not. And I presume a certain % of the of the men are not nice. So that’s over half of polish people are not nice according to you and then you tell the blogger that HE can’t tell his arse from a hole in the ground.
I am 100% Polish and I see that most Brits are shorter than the Pollocks of my families. I am 6’3″ and the size of a football player. Take a look at Mike Ditka, Rob Gronkowski, both tight ends because I don’t think there are too many Polish gays too 😉 Also, I never heard any complaints of size. My shoes are size 14 and my hands are XL. When I grab it, there’s a lot left out there. The Brits suck. Their accent sucks, they’re pussy’s, etc…. America kicked their asses in the 1700’s and they would be in trouble today if it were not for the US. As for the Poles, they started Solidarity which was the beginning of the end of the Communist Rule! enough said. We are smart, strong and big. Deal with it.
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really i don’t care what you personally think about me (1000% polish well buid not tall 180 cm 126 kg no fat) as long as that what you do don’t affect me .And also I’m sure that nobody decent will base own opinion on Your personal judgments BUT if you want to be taken serioulsly as a blogger before you write anything else but your unimportant opinions should doo some reserch for accept yes Polish Colonial and Nautical League bought 40000 ha in Parana state in Brasil and were plans to bay many more I’m preaty sure if we dig a litle bit more we will faind more false statements
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I am late to this discussion but I would like to point out (not even mention the blatant rudeness of your whole post) that yes, we do have distinct facial features and CAN spot one another in a different country rapidly. The same goes for Russians.
Polish people are not short, just look at the statistics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Average_height_around_the_world they’re on average about half an inch taller than the English.
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I an Polish, what are you all complaining about ?, we are sensitive, diligent , hard working, communicative, healthy, intelligent , practical people , suffered a lot over centuries, but survivied, and have love in are hearts , respectful, and hopeful, what is all this nonsense, , we have humility ,dont ever put us doun, thanks.
amen 🙂 I think the author must of had there heart jilted or something by a Polish guy or girl,
to express such a negative opinion about Polish people.
Humility? Your post rather shows that you are pretty delusional and totally unwilling to admit any flaws in your character.
I met a Pole who was just like you, braggin about himself all the time, even suggesting he had some kind of supereme powers, his child was a genius he was super rich at one point but he got tired of it blablabla
It seems Polest like to be honest onky when it means judgin (dimissing and insulting) others but they are too scared to look at their own deficiencies and jeez there are many!!!
this is only about author..All we human , in England there are a lots of rude people , no stop somebody tells me that he / she hates polish people , or somethink like – go back to your country.. Wherever you are , you might find some rude and nice people.. i agree 100% with Graeme… And Scotish people are real , more welcome , and thrue… there is a thrue that many English people thinks that they are the best in the world… sick
Yes, in general, they are rude. Which comes from a provincial and peasant mentality most of them have. Yes, many Poles (not all, but definitely the majority) think and behave like angry peasants – suspicious, mistrustful, envious, dishonest (especially in business), greedy and victimized. Then there’s the racism, anti-semitism and homophobia they think they ‘don’t have’. Most well traveled, educated, honest, Poles will accept and admit these things – which is why many of them HATE (or hated, since many also leave) living there and feel embarrassed about their culture. They know the truth. Others will argue and disagree, but that’s just typical of people who are either dishonest or can’t see what’s obvious to anyone who’s lived or spent much time in Poland.
Ok lets stop with the hating….1st of all my grandmother is 100% polish, from Poland.She was 5’10 blue eyes, dark brown hair Beatiful..2nd she was far from Rude, when a polish person from the old country cooks for people, plays Host, it does not mean there trying to show wealth ect ect. Its a generous gesture to welcome a person.into there home. Polish people are also known to be very hard working, the person who wrote these opinions of the polish culture, maybe they need to go to a polish wedding, perhaps they’ll change there perception of the whole nation.
there is one thing about being a American…were a mixed race, so I really dont see the point in judging a nationality or race…Im French/Polish/English/Native American, but Im not going to sit & beat myself up over it..All of my back grounds at one time or another have been to war with each other & Probably really dont like each other..but someone one had to, I was born…lol Just treat each other with some respect, along with that also means others nationalities, race & religion..now if our world leaders would follow some of this advice, we would all probably be alot happier.
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After living for 3 years with my polish wife (I’m English) I must say you are one deluded person.
Maybe you find polish to be all the following because your a horrible person and they just mirror your attitude, to be fair every nationality has the people who you wouldn’t want to spend time with, but to go as far as typing this whole blog out specifically about the polish it shows your lack of intelligence and human decency.
You are 1 world class Prick with your type of ignorant attitude being broadcasted no wonder nationalitys will be getting sterio typed.
Do all decent people a favour and never talk, type or write anything again.
You’re not a native English speaker, and you’re not English. Nice try though. I’ve never met an English person who lived in Poland who didn’t agree with most of his points (and I’ve met dozens). I seriously doubt you ever lived in Poland and if you did (and you’re English) you definitely DID NOT find Poles to be ‘wonderful and polite’. That is unless you were raised in an English prison.
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All polish People are selfish and they are all very mean people. They are the type of people who would recycle there own feces if they could. They would rather keep a vehicle and let it set up and turn to rust instead of saling to someone who would find use for the vehicle.
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Polish people are fucking awful and I’ve met thousands. They always bang on about the war how they saved everybody they never mention the Jewish communities that were slaughtered by Pollacks once Germany took over and later turning Jews and others into the concentration camps in return for a bag of sugar. Greedy soulless fuckers.
You speak the truth. I’ve met thousands as well, and they are are the most fucked up, victimized, angry, envious, complex ridden group of people I’ve ever been around – and I’ve lived in five countries and travelled the world over. This would all be somewhat tolerable if they had the slightest sense of humour – which they don’t. There are exceptions, but in general, they are flat fucking unbearable to live amongst.
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A native Pole admitting they are wrong, sincerely apologizing, or saying they don’t know the answer to something? I lived there for nine years and never saw or heard it. Acting superior? Again, typical – which is usually to mask their massive inferiority complex. Obsessed with money, status, titles or nationality? Almost all of them will decide how treat you based solely on these superficial things. Island was absolutely correct with that take.
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If you’re visiting Poland and you’re from the west when you cross the border it’s best to just forget about whatever social etiquette your were taught. People will be directly and indirectly rude to you in many, many, ways. Unless its a short visit, you will be shocked by this behavior at times. Just don’t take it personally, and remind yourself that most of them are still living in trees and don’t know any better.
Listen up arseholes.
Sure us Poles are prideful, superficial, and stubborn. Regarding education systems; there are good schools and bad schools. Just like every other damn place in the world.
I am about 80% Polish; my mom is a native Pole and my dad has over half of his ancestry from Poland. I live in the U.S., but I have been to Poland about 11 times so far and I am fluent in Polish. Yes Polish people on the street won’t smile and ask how your day is, but it’s just a different culture. That’s just the way it is, and complaining about it online behind your computer isn’t going to change a damn thing.
But all the racist, ignorant, and downright rude comments sicken me. Not all Poles are the same, so you can’t generalize a whole group if you don’t fucking know the whole group. I can’t say all Americans are fat and lazy because a) I don’t know all Americans and b) there are many Americans that work hard and are very healthy.
For example, “the more prideful the Pole, the stupider”?!
Are you being fucking serious?!
I am prideful. I’m not going to lie, I don’t like being called stupid; I don’t think anyone does. But to say that we are all stupid is completely false. I’ve scored above gifted on IQ tests and a 34 on my ACT (taking the SAT this current year), so REALLY. ALL Poles are stupid?
There is a difference with pointing out social differences among cultures and then making rude comments based on someone’s racial heritage. Practically anywhere in the world if you make a racist comment you can be labeled as a racist asshole. This is no different; if you make a racist comment about a black man then you can be called a rude, anti-black fucktard. But according to most of you; to make a racist comment about a Pole is completely acceptable.
Seriously. Grow up.
Some of you calling us Poles “uneducated heathens with no manners” should look in the mirror and re-evaluate your own manners and education.
I met two Polish colleagues. One was really tall at 6′. He was the most polite men I have ever met. Real gentleman.
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i am both half English and half Polish and honestly they’re the same exact thing if you ask me. most white Europeans are. Dumb, boring, drunks, lazy, and rude. I hate both sides of my family and all of there friends who I constantly see when I visit in Poland and the UK. They’re all grimy. I’d rather be an Indian or black. I plan on leaving my parents, who still try to teach me Polish and get involved with their cultures and such, once I’m 18.
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well is it just me or is itjealousy …. well poland is a beautiful country and i bet much clearner then uk as we dont have so many muslims and blacks there… look at uk muslims everywhere… your saying we only care about money says the person whos on benefits and has 7 children… at least we work… and btw poland is a beautiful country.
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Nice racist ‘aren’t us Poles great! post. Though I’m sure the irony of it is lost on your ignorant, narrow-minded, typical Polish catholic, ass.
I am not a racist and I am Polish, I am also agnostic! Generalizing, name calling and writing hateful post reflects on your ignorance, not the ignorance of Polish nation!
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Aleksandra I think you very racist, rude, jealous, idiot and horrible. everyone has beautiful countries as you do but you just show it what kind of person you are. That is absolutely true about Money. sum of you can be evil to each other for money. you don’t trust each other.you don’t like each other, you are very jealous for each other. this is not for all polish people but for most of you who live US and UK.
Do you have any idea how racist and fucked up your post is Aleksandra? Now, go back to your back to your village, read some ‘white power’ brochures, make some pierogi, and pretend you’re a christian or something.
ok, so first of all I’m Polish and I’m sorry to say that I do not agree with.. the first statement! I’d like to encourage everyone who’s ever considered Polish as short to check survey’s results. average Polish man is 178cm tall, woman 165cm, while in England it’s 177 for man and 164 for woman (pardon for not using Anglo-Saxon measure system 🙂 ). I’m 170(woman) which is considered as an average height in my environment. Besides, just have a look at Polish national team in volleball. Average height there is 197, the tallest player is 211cm and the shortest 185 (not bad, isn’t it?). thus, the point is: Polish and English do not differ that much in ‘height area’. You’ve probably must have met very short people 😉
I am almost completely Polish and that’s funny because I am not racist, rude, inconsiderate, and I may not be very tall, but I have unexplained health problems as to where they came from. None of my family on the Polish side have history of it and my sister has the same problem but hers was caught earlier. So I think some people need to grow up a little and use their brains, because we ALL have one, before they start making false judgments. (: Kay thanks.
I can’t believe people can be so wrong about another nationality. First of all, I have lived in England for 6 years but I’m Polish. I disagree with EVERYONE who said people in Poland are rude, intolerant, think too much of themselves. Look at yourselves. Just by saying that it means you think YOU are the best and isn’t that being as arrogant and rude as the “Poles” you have described… I am Polish and I don’t consider myself anything like what you said. It’s true that SOME people are stupid but then isn’t any country like this??
I’m Polish, born and raised.
Poles are generally tall people… I’m 5’10” (average height for not only Poles, but most Slavs in general) .. my mother is 5’8″ — also typical height for most Polish women I’ve met.
I’m in my mid-20s, and I’ve never smoked, taken drugs, or tried alcohol before.
The only con about the Poles is that they are serious ass kissers, especially towards westerners. I’m very conservative, so it pains me to see Poles attempting to ‘act’ American.
Some of these comments are horrible. Being polish myself, I know first hand that most of the things being said here are untrue. I was raised by a polish mother who taught me to love and respect people regardless of their skin color, sexual orientation, religion etc. Also, she is a nurse and very well educated. There are terrible people in this world, all over the world and in every country. It is wrong to stereotype an entire nationality based off your biased opinion. Poland is a beautiful country with beautiful people and I love visiting it, life is so much simpler there. To say we’re judgemental is hypocritical.
Well Agnes you’re an exception. Good for you – and yes there are many great people in Poland. But after living there for many years I can say FOR SURE (from a western perspective) that the majority of Poles are in fact racist, homophobic, sexist, anti-semite’s. I base that off the fact that I’ve met and spoken to literally thousands and thousands of Polish people. The simple life you speak of? Well yes, life tends to be simpler in places where the average person makes around 600 pounds a month.
So you call Polish people racist, sexist etc. but you just judged the whole nation by average salary.
Well done !
One more thing: giving specific numbers like £600 doesn’t really make sense without knowing costs of living and they are much lower in Poland than wherever average salary will be £1200
And I’ve lived in the UK for 7 years and I can practically say the same about the English: although some of them are truly great, vast majority are xenofobic, many racist, homophobic, etc, generally not very friendly. The only difference is Poles put all the cards on the table, whereas the English rarely let their thoughts be known.
^ True, when in comes to being aggressively ignorant (‘cards on the table’) Poles are much more forthright than most people in the UK.
I am absolutely appalled at some of the comments on this blog. First of all, Polish, American, British, German, etc. are NOT races-they are Nationalities. Second, people who are racist, sexist, rude, homophobic, alcoholics/drug users, and snobs who think only of money and social status, can be found in all countries on earth. The degree of this depends on how “modern” the country is where they live but it does exist everywhere. These same countries have citizens who are nice, generous, hard working, accepting of other races, nationalities, religions and lifestyles. Class, manners, upbringing, education, respect for others is often shown in blogs like this one by the way that people respond to others’ perspectives. Swearing and name calling shows lack of all of those. Finally, lack of understanding of a culture is the quickest way towards generalization and stereotyping. Don’t judge a culture from “western”, “eastern” or “other” perspectives-learn the perspective of the society you live in. Learn that society’s WHOLE history, struggles and triumphs not just what you’ve seen on the surface over the course of a couple of years or even a decade because you are reacting and judging that society by the superficial. It is amazing that people can post blogs this hateful and consider themselves righteous in the doing.
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Blah, blah, blah, the truth hurts. You can spin it however you want but if you speak to people who’ve spent considerable time in Poland from abroad nearly all of those comments that you find so ‘appalling!” (minus the drug users) are basically everyday (and sometimes appalling) observations for them. They must all be ‘superficial’ though right? Yeah, keep on whistling in the dark. Also, it’s the Poles on this forum (below, above) who seem to not know what ‘racism’ is so that was a funny little contradiction at the beginning.
Reading comprehension is not your strong suit Luke. Stating facts is not the same as ‘judging’ and the myth that the cost of living in Poland is low is just that, a myth, the prices for almost everything in Poland (minus food) is in line with many countries where salaries double or triple. Poles are well educated, work hard, and their standard of living is low…..and the ones I know and knew would leave Poland in a second if they could arrange it. But don’t take my word for it, maybe you can ask one of the FIFTEEN million of your countrymen that currently live abroad.
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This is racism and discrimination. And let’s not forget about stereotypical. You went to one place in poland and you think all polish people are the same. Well I can also say that all british people are boring or always drunk. That dosen’t mean that it’s true I lived in britin for 6 years and I didn’t even enjoy one minute. Polish people have a great sense of humor, they’re mostly very inteligent ant talented. They were also helping the British air force in WW2 (ahem britin couldn’t make it ahem)
You clearly don’t know what the word ‘racism’ means, which is an important mistake in your post, since being Polish more than likely you and 90% percent of the people you know are.
Discrimaination, really? Wait, I thought Poles liked ‘honesty’ and ‘putting cards on the table’. LOL. You are such god damn hypocrates.
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i am both half English and half Polish and honestly they’re the same exact thing if you ask me. most white Europeans are. Dumb, boring, drunks, lazy, and rude. I hate both sides of my family and all of there friends who I constantly see when I visit in Poland and the UK. They’re all grimy. I’d rather be an Indian or black. I plan on leaving my parents, who still try to teach me Polish and get involved with their cultures and such, once I’m 18.
Ok hold on… Let me just get my gun.. I shall find you and kill you! Seriously?! You’re sooo racist! Poles are very intelligent and have a great sense of humour! You wish you were Polish! Poles are the nicest people you’re fucking eyes shall ever see. I hope one day you’ll see how your behaviour might have hurt a lot of people and that you’ll regret it! Fuck you.
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No. They aren’t nice.
“I have noticed that a lot of Polish people fall over themselves to help a foreigner in distress. It suprises the foreigner so much sometimes that he or she even offers money in return!”
Dear Jola,
Now if you would show the same courtesy to other poles there might be a point in what the rest of your statement said.Poles love foreigners but will fuck each other over at the drop of a hat. If you are of polish descent, do not mention it as it seems to trigger envy and makes people consider you to be of inferior stock. As one Pole told me once(My background being polish) “Oh you are Polish? I guess your parents immigrated because they were too dumb to do anything here!”
this person would probably would fall over themselved to help a foreigner, but that probably, would indicate one of the other observations above. THey would probably want something in return down the road.
PS. I have never seen a foreigner offer anyone money in return unless they were trying to solicit sex and the person who helped would be pretty and help them get their rocks off later.
I hope this helps and please Jola, pull your head out of your ass. Your comments are not helping much with the case you are trying to build against the article.
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Yes, but it’s all part of the ‘We’re so hospitable!’ lie that Poles want foreigners to believe. It works on tourists, but for expats who live here it’s a boring little game. As if we don’t clearly see how little regard and respect Poles show each other in most day to day interactions. I can see reactions change IMMEDIATELY when my Polish falters and I start speaking native level English. Then ‘viola!’ the rudeness magically becomes helpfulness and I’m a ‘foreigner in distress’. It’s laughably absurd.
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Umm but in my opinoion.. as an asian girl who is hanging out with polish boys, I haven’t rly felt them rude or that judgemental. (yea but have heard they admitting their own nation as (more or less) racists though. ) I think they are rather gentle and innocent than boys in my country. Yes, they tend to jealous and be calculative often, but not like boys in my country, the ways of their behaviors are so naive or straight enough to feel it’s predictable and innocous. And don’t u think every nations are consious when it comes to capital in capitalism era?
I have only met four Polish people in my life an one of them is half German living in Germany so I would cut him off the list. The Polish girl I met is extremely sweet and nice, not to mention tall and hot. Okay, I live in Asia and this is where I met the three Poles.
The Polish guys… okay that’s a different story. I know I can’t generalize from this but these boys definitely gave me a negative impression. The first Polish guy I met was extremely rude and bossy. He works as a manager for this cab company and he thinks that he’s the boss of everyone. At first I thought that it was just his attitude so I didn’t mind but apparently everyone started to hate him – even the other Europeans that hanged out with us (Swedes, Germans, Britons, Italians… and other people). He was too authoritative and pushy. One time he asked me to come home with him and I refused because I was dating somebody. He was forcing me and asked me to tell my date that I will return in an hour, we will just have sex. My observation – he looks down on Asians very much and thinks that we’re very easy (probably because we’re Asians and he’s white oh gosh, I’m very picky with my white boys) and is very racist. With him being that, he didn’t really get the hot girls. He ended up with cheap ones that he probably got from the red light district. As for his looks, well he was tall roughly a bit more than six feet, good body but no he wasn’t good looking.
The second Polish guy – this guy disgusts me the most. When I first saw him, my then British ex told me that he gets all the girls and I might find him good looking. I was expecting an attractive guy but as for looks, no he’s nothing exceptional. He’s just an ordinary Caucasian with blond hair and blue eyes. The catch is that he gets a lot of girls. We found out that he gets his girls from a dating site (or somewhere) and flirts with them, makes them believe there may be something after tomorrow, fucks them and throws them away. He did say his that his goal while in Asia is to have sex with as many Asians before he returns to Poland. I know a lot of Caucasians here playing around, but he’s the only one who goes really public about it and posts on Facebook with so much pride how he ditched this girl, replaced the other, got another, and so on. So much for machismo??
With these two guys in my friends’ circle, I can’t help but wonder if Polish men are really like this, which is why I ended up in this article because of my curiosity. My observations (not conclusions yet):
1. These Polish boys think they’re really hot because they’re white. I assume they don’t really get that much girls in homeland that’s why they are like that here.
2. They treat Asians like shit, because they can or so they think they can and end up in a desperate attempt which is funny. Why they do it? I don’t know, maybe because they also can’t do it back home and as per reading the article and the comments, they are racist.
3. They are so proud of how they fuck around. Do they lack sex in Poland?? Seriously?
4. As friends, the first one I don’t like hanging around with him because I’m scared of him. The second one, I never hang out with him because I find him disgusting so no they aren’t my friends.
You’ve only discovered the truth really – that being that most Polish guys are sexist, racist, know-it-all, humourless, ass-clowns. Generally they’re either entirely unaware of these traits – or actually proud of them – depending on the person. I’ve met thousands, and I’d say about one, maybe two, out of ten is actually ‘cool’.
youre a goof, youre a racist, you generalize an entire nation because youre a moron, you should say these things to the face of a polish person instead of on the internet, arrogant prick
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Poles are ‘much nicer’ than Americans? Hahahaha!!
Thanks for the laugh.
My pleasure…. and with excellent manners as you see..)
True, Poles are famous for their excellent manners (much like you showed slamming the French and Americans)….ask any expat and I’m sure they’ll agree. The irony is beautiful.
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You are so wrong about Poland and so rude! I am very upset about what you had to say about my beloved country. How could you say such rude things, it is the best country ever and don’t you dare criticize POLAND like that! NEVER COME TO POLAND AGAIN, NO ONE WANTS YOU THEIR YOU ASSSS!!! and yes, we do drink a lot more than you think!!!
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you’re an idiot, short ??? we are some of the largest people on earth do your research or Google Polish hooligans, look up our boxers, lol this post is garbage and you’re a goof
I know right. Its extra funny coming from the brits
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This article is ridiculous. I am 21 now and spend half of my life in Poland, the other half in England. Bearing in mind I moved to Poland not knowing any of their language, I instantly bumped into people who were dying to help me learn. Schools are not control by kids who are ‘cooler’ or have more money. They actually care about their education and work hard. Moving back to England was such a shock for me because everybody is so money and fame orientated. I got bullied and called ‘Polish’ once they knew I had lived in Poland (even though I have a British name and hold a British passport). My Polish friends still keep in touch with me now, whereas English people forget about you the minute you leave town.
And on another note, I’m not so sure why it’s bad that a country isn’t as ‘Westernised’ as England. I mean seriously, Why are everyone sheep around here? You don’t have to be ‘Western’ to enjoy life, and in fact it is Westernised countries that are swamping with unimaginative, samey-looking, samey-minded (I’m aware that these aren’t real words- but you get my gist) people.
I think that before you criticize a country you should learn their language, experience their culture and stop looking at it from an outsiders perspective. You clearly are in Poland making no friends and have nothing left to do but sit on street corners judging everyone who passes you. (Typical westernised person), and whilst judging them, you are stating how judgemental or critical they are. Hypocrite.
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I’m polish woman living in poland and I share most your feelings and opinion. I think polish people you’ve described (born in the 50’s and 60’s ) are sometimes lost between two worlds – communism and capitalism, unfortunately some of them had implanted their way of thinking to their children. But I have the luck to know many young polish people who are open minded and eager to live in their own way. Becouse very often these differences are between parents and children it is importent to fight with the “old-polish complex”, tray to understand each other’s needs and find a common language
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I like how people are saying poles are judgemental when most of you are shitting on them. I guarantee if someone started insulting your nationality, you would be defensive too. Don’t get me wrong, growing up in a polish family, I’ve experienced a lot of shitty factors, but I can assure you most thing listed in the comments are not true.
Not really, plenty of Polish people I know – especially the well travelled, educated, reasonably objective ones, agree on many of the ‘shitting points’ mentioned above.
Its true polish people didnt do anything to Americans yet they hate us. I visited usa once and people joked about polish people despite not knowing any. The same goes for britan. When blacks rob and kill you cant say anything beacuse its racist so they get anger out on us.Sory for English
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Dear all stupid people that talk sh*t about Poland and polish people,
I agree that poles can be rude and…picky.Like now.The only reason that we are rude and judgemental, is because SOME people do not APPRECIATE them and their culture.
They call us,”Racist pigs”, and,”White as*”. WHO IS BEING THE DAMN PIG??!!Did you know that Poland is one of the most and hardest working and respectful countries on Earth?
So, b*tches shut your assholes please.
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I’m Polish and I’m so sick of Polish people defending their country so much, Poland is nowhere near perfect, it’s filled with rude people with no manners. Accept it and move on !
I have lived in Ireland for a few years now and I can safely say that the people are a lot “better” (I’m lacking a better word, sorry lol). You’re walking down the street and people smile at you and ususally say hi if you walk past them, you definitely don’t have that in Poland.
I’m proud to be Polish but I’m also ashamed of the things Polish people do.
Dont listen to the guy that write paragraph. He is British and they are very racist to us for some reason
. You leave your motherland so you are irish now. If you dont care about poland enough to stay and help you shouldn’t complain about people that do. I live in poland now and people live off of smal salaries have no retirement and are threatened by war. Would you be smiling?
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hahaha you sir app don’t know shit. Start asking questions about americans and how lazy they are that other people from other nations have to do work for them now thats fucked up. Polish people or not rude they are actually very nice.
Fyi, a british guy wrote this article not an american.
Im polish and im 6ft3.Many of my friends are same height or taller. I say 6ft1 is average height.I came to uk and usa and people there are all below my shoulder so you are full of shit.Look at statistics. sorry for English not my mother tongue.
Warning the guy that wrote this is a racist brain dead English man. People like him make fake stereotypes like polish being short. Im polish and 6ft2 which is about average in poland. Also I can tell he never eaven visit poland. He is just using stereotypes that the bullshit usa and uk media spreads. Its ok to make lies about the polish but if you say something true about a black guy ITS FUCKING RACIST. Fuck you
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I’m sorry to say but the answer to the question ” Are poles rude?” I find was very rude. I will agree polish people are judgemental but I don’t think their judgemental about the fact if you have lots of money or not. I think you were being very rude with that fact. I also don’t think those three points you listed about then trying to show off how much money they have by giving you lots of food when you come over is a lie. I find many European people tend to do that and it’s not only polish I have many European friends from a bunch of different nationalities. And by your pride in Britains empire in one of then questions I’m guessing you are British and I just wanted to say that I think you should be more careful when answering questions about a different country and its people.
Ibdont understand why some British person is answering questions about polish people . And not only that answering some of the questions very rudely. Also considering that some of the stuff that’s said in here isn’t true.
i have a polish chap working for me who has consistently demonstrated some of the best traits in human nature….. very nice chap but nobodys fool!!!…….. interestingly he says theres a large portion of the polish community at home who are not nice people and he likes england better, although i suspect his standards are higher than most citizens of any European country and as he gets to know the real nature of the average uk citizen he will start to realise, apart from the factor or poorness and deprivation on his people, that people (all things considered) are the same good bad and indifferent the world over
I live in Poland for about three years now, and Polish people are not all the same because every one has a different mentality even if they share some similarities, I met very nice people here, but I have to say most of the nice people here are the old people, nerds, shy people, people from poor working class, spiritual Catholics and people from small towns are mostly nice with you especially if you’re a foreigner. but many people in large metropolitan areas are assholes especially the youth and the rich people. But as mentioned in the article above that somehow polish people are rude if they don’t now you, fancy you up or need something from you. Plus Poland was a poor socialist country were every one was poor so there was not a huge socio-economical gap between the people. Who got a Mercedes at that time coming from the west was like flying a UFO, but after the collapse of the socialist system the capitalism and market base economy ruled the country so the socio-economical gap became very huge and many people left behind especially in the rural areas while some became middle class and a minority very rich, and I some how without generalization agree with main article which says Poles are highly judgmental because they are hypersensitive toward social categories ”Money”, which means as mentioned in the article if you’re not wearing like a business man and driving some fancy car you might not be noticed by some of those materialistic people. and yes envy and jealousy is the base of social dynamics for the most people in those big metropolitan areas even a Polish friend told me that. just watch the commercials on Polish TV, banks and loans companies trying to convince to take a loan to buy a car just to show off and impress people who do not really like you. I must admit people in the capitol of where I came from especially among the middle and in the high class have this same problem of materialism. Look at some doctors here in Poland they sometimes behave like they are gods even sometimes they don’t say hello because they are doctors and earn more money, not because they save people lives, i’m wondering if they don’t earn much money the society here might not give a damn about them. I’ve been reading recently many self help books which many based on the spiritual foundations of Zen Buddhism which changed many things of the perception of the world around me especially staying away from my negative thoughts, but unfortunately this article came to confirm some of my feelings about the society here. but I still stress out I met many cool people here, and it’s better to be nice with a person who doesn’t deserve it rather than being rude yourself toward a nice person and hurt his or her feelings and miss a chance for a good conversation or a friendship.
Also this problem by different degrees exist everywhere not in one country.
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I’m Polish and I feel offended that you categorize all Polish people as rude. Maybe it’s because you are living in Cracow. It’s overcrowded and it desensitizes people a bit. Maybe you are just interpreting some things weirdly, or maybe you’ve met the wrong sort of people.
I would never intentionally barge into someone, but I’m a bit clumsy and sometimes I get a bit too pensive and forget to look around – I always say “przepraszam” (I’m sorry). Some people are too fast to hear it.
I love having guests and enjoy seeing them enjoy the food I’ve prepared. Many other Polish people do too. I love giving people presents for the same reasons. I actually look for presents for other people all year round – to find the best before I find the occasion. I might stare at their reaction to the present, but only because I’ve poured my heart into it and want to know if they like it.
Some Polish people are obsessed about status, mostly from little towns or really big cities, but it’s not the norm.
To Polish observer: I think you exaggerated about the poles.Not every pole is the same.Who are you to judge you fucking freak.Fuck yourself.Wherever you come from for sure there are freaks ,dumb, rude cruel people in your country as well.You must be one of Hitler’s ancestors because other nations have no grudges against poles but you do.By the way you mentioned about money…are you blind everyone in the world in needs money I bet you do if you don’t than you must be an alien.
The good Polish stay at home because they have a life there.The bad Poles emigrate.
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Dear Jamie,
I am not sure if you are aware of it, but your self-righteousness, the criticism of what is different, and a complete lack of cultural awareness is typical of your background. Your “bad mood” excuse is also, in my opinion – infantile and inappropriate. I am not sure if you are a well-traveled individual, but based on your opinion I am assuming that you are not. In the future, please try not to spread hate and ignorance, but learn about Polish history and culture instead. Writing about walking down the streets and “winning the pavement game” is just ridiculous. Have you ever lived in a big city before? In my opinion Krakow is a bliss in comparison to, lets say Beijing or even NY.
Polish people as a nation are struggling at the moment, but it all stems from Poland geographical position and their recent history. Let me remind you that Poland is a border country that divides East and West.
Now, it may come to you as a shocker…. but after World War 2 Poland was not saved by the western countries but actually sold to Russians for further peace. That is how communism started and that is why Polish people are set back in comparison to the rest of western part of the Europe.
Your style of writing reminds me of old British travelers who described India back when it was a British Colony. They had absolutely no understanding of their rich culture, mentality or religious rituals, but they were quick to make assumptions, criticize and compare it with all mighty Britain. Do you want to be seen as such individual? I don’t think so! To sum up – I believe that you are a fairly good observer and an intelligent soul, and I hope that in the future you will dig a bit deeper and provide us with much more interesting material.
Coming from a neighbour country to Poland and now living in UK, I have to admit – it is heartbreaking but true that a large amount of Polish community tend to be rather mean, judgemental, very direct and loving to think about things in a dark/negative light.
Two most recent examples witnessed (there are so many of them that you could actually write a documentary):
– Polish colleague complaining and belittling her 5 year old child on a continuous basis. The only good thing in this was that she admitted being a bad mum. Yes, some kids could be more demanding than others but that does not mean that you should be so cold hearted to your own child and feel obliged to express it to others… It seems that her nanny does not help.
– Polish colleagues prejudging people they worked with for a couple of days in the office. They can just say “Guy X is so useless in this task” for the project team and laugh, same direct mean phrases get said to specific persons in front of other they work with. How would you feel if in front of your coworkers a Polish new joiner (not even with a high role) would just say during the meeting – “Look I think you are a failure.”?
Such attitudes are rather exhausting to deal with and I tend to prefer keeping my distance from Poles at work.
my experience about poles ,,
they are a bit opportunist,
they complain a lot, if they are not in their country.
They be silent , if they dont have control over things happening around them.
if you are no use of them, they simply don’t entertain you.
they will talk to you when you are an option and can help them,
they never MAINTAIN friendship ,i think they dont believe in friendship.
may be they don’t think from open mind, they deal with foreigners as per what they have seen in their country more.
its just my view on some of the poles , i am not generalizing it.
I have travelled Poland extensively. All of the negative comments are true from my experience,; they lack soul, depth, intellect and individualism. However, if you spend a few hours reading about their history, it is not difficult to try and understand how and why they are such a damaged society. My partner is Polish and he is a complete rebel against everything that Poland tries enforce/portray. I have met the odd academic who also is far above any materialism and pretence but in general, as a nation, they lack ambition, drive and creativity and very much still live like communists to a militant timetable.
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I have worked with Polish people twice and lived (shared a house) with them twice. The first conversation I had with my new polish housemates was that no one liked polish people. As this was the first time I’d heard this I disagreed with them. However after a month of living with them I was inclined to agree. Jeez! Does life really have to be made so difficult?? One thing I noticed is they would do to you like it was their right but if you did the same back they would lose their shit. And no amount explanation regarding this would make them see. The most un-self aware people I’ve ever met. Like when they defend their straight talking even if it does offend people. Then when you tell them theyre rude they lose their shit (^^^read comments above^^^).
Of course these are generalisations. In general, this is what I’ve found. I worked with one pole who was one of the nicest people you could meet. But even he rolls his eyes at his fellow countrymen.
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Interesting to read…It is hard to believe that ANY nation can be so totally rude and bad.And if they are…at least their country is very beautiful.
Absolutely moat biast, uneducated piece of. So called “blog entry” I have ever seen. You know absolutely nothing about the polish and polish culture. Backpacking in Lodz for 6 days with a hipster mindset, leads to abrut spits of so called journalism. Give it up, and go back to dairy queen buddy. Absolute shit article, how do I get it removed.
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Me and my girlfriend shared a house with a polish lady and her young son in London. We thought it would be nice to buy them some small presents for Xmas. They kept the present they liked and gave back the present they didn’t like without saying thank you. Needless to say they didn’t buy us anything in return.
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This is epically insulting, as well as completely erroneous. As a pole I was in perpetual cringe mode whilst reading this utter nonsense.
No, not all Poles are short. I’m a 5’6″ Polish woman, and the men in my family are all over 6′.
Rude? Stop it. We are some of the most hospitable people you could ever meet…we are just more straight forward than the English who love to beat around the bush, and tend to have zero tolerance for asinine behavior.
Colonies? I’m guessing you’ve never been to Chicago’s Polish Triangle. Although it’s not an official ‘colony’ the street signs are in Polish, etc, as Chicago has the largest population of Poles, aside from Poland, in the world.
Perhaps you should better educate yourself before offering anymore thought on Poles.